What's your thought on the TSX Sport Wagon?

hlee96 · 12-13-2022, 01:43 PM

Already own a space grey '09 E91 AWD, but the Acura TSX Sport Wagon is really making me hesitate in buying my 2nd E91 or try something new in the TSX Wagon. The TSX wagon will be somewhat a little more expensive, but not more than $2-3k for similar mileage. However, longterm repairs/maintenance, and the fact that these E91/TSX wagon will be given to my sons in a few more years when they reach driving age (3-6 years).

Is the driving dynamics that much off from a RWD E91 with auto?

thanks so much

ppointer · 12-13-2022, 04:33 PM

I have driven several Acuras and Hondas, even owned an Accord for a bit. I drove a TSX a while back, but not the wagon. They all drive like Hondas, which is a good thing. Just different than a BMW. I think you have to drive one yourself to decide.

So, I "strayed" (my wife's word) last year and bought an S5 with V8 and MT. I thought it would be a good car for Ohio, to contrast our mostly-BMW fleet. I sold it nine months later, replacing it with another e92 MT. I don't think anyone would have been able to explain to me what I had to experience myself.

M-technik-3 · 12-13-2022, 04:41 PM

FWD vs RWD or AWD. Me personally I prefer the RWD then AWD and then FWD.

tturedraider · 12-13-2022, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

FWD vs RWD or AWD. Me personally I prefer the RWD then AWD and then FWD.

^ this

M-technik-3 · 12-13-2022, 05:42 PM

Thanks grammar police, English was not my major, but I'll take it with a grain of salt.

tturedraider · 12-13-2022, 11:56 PM

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LOL Unfortunate coincidence.
It’s his signature and it wasn’t directed to you. Every post he makes carries that.
He was agreeing with you.
And you’re use of “then” is correct anyway, as opposed to my use of you’re instead of your.

Correct! On all three counts! lol

whyzee125 · 12-14-2022, 03:05 AM

LOL this was a hilarious exchange. What're the odds

W/// · 12-14-2022, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hlee96

Already own a space grey '09 E91 AWD, but the Acura TSX Sport Wagon is really making me hesitate in buying my 2nd E91 or try something new in the TSX Wagon. The TSX wagon will be somewhat a little more expensive, but not more than $2-3k for similar mileage. However, longterm repairs/maintenance, and the fact that these E91/TSX wagon will be given to my sons in a few more years when they reach driving age (3-6 years).

Is the driving dynamics that much off from a RWD E91 with auto?

thanks so much

Yes the driving dynamics are much different, but I'd also argue the biggest different for me is going from a silky smooth inline 6 paired to a 6 speed auto vs a 4 cylinder paired with only a 4 (or was it 5) speed auto. The gearshifts were very slow.

Lucky1 · 12-14-2022, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

FWD vs RWD or AWD. Me personally I prefer the RWD then AWD and then FWD.

Why?

tturedraider · 12-15-2022, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky1

Why?

Probably because rwd driving dynamics are more fun. There’s a difference between being pushed around a corner than pulled around.

brad850csi · 12-15-2022, 11:38 AM

RWD then AWD rather than FWD

86Zed · 12-16-2022, 11:59 AM

TSX Wagon is a solid reliability play and a good match for early drivers. Paired to an anemic engine and certainly it is no E91 in terms of engagement or potential thrills. Plenty of them left on the road which speaks to it's longevity.

mecheng77 · 12-17-2022, 12:16 PM

As a former Honda owner I will point out they are more prone to rust than a BMW. I've had a brake line completely fail and the rear quarters of my Honda's all suffered rust issues. Ppl fail to mention that important point when it comes to reliability

hlee96 · 12-17-2022, 01:24 PM

I think the way Japanese engineers there cars are so different than German cars. The reliability issues and level of ease/difficulty with regular service items are also main concerns for these decisions.

However, even though everytime I drive my E91 I have a feeling of "please don't have weird noises, smoke, or shakes", its smoothness, handling, and steering always pulls me back to the brand.

I spent 3 years between my e90 335xi and the 328xi e91 with a '19 CRV, and I hated every minute in that thing. My DIL's '17 CIVIC was so much better and engaging, and even my '14 Odyssey is better to drive!

Thank you for all help!

86Zed · 12-17-2022, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hlee96

However, even though everytime I drive my E91 I have a feeling of "please don't have weird noises, smoke, or shakes", its smoothness, handling, and steering always pulls me back

Similar vibes with my 135K mile E91. Such a great daily and ridiculously stable in poor weather situations. On a regular basis I debate between taking it to its grave (and the heavy maintenance years to come) or pulling the plug in favor of a Civic Si or similar MT sedan - less a newcomer wagon appear

12-13-2022, 01:43 PM	#1
hlee96 New Member 9 Rep 22 Posts Drives: BMW 335XI Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Near Mushroom Capital of the World iTrader: (0)	What's your thought on the TSX Sport Wagon? Already own a space grey '09 E91 AWD, but the Acura TSX Sport Wagon is really making me hesitate in buying my 2nd E91 or try something new in the TSX Wagon. The TSX wagon will be somewhat a little more expensive, but not more than $2-3k for similar mileage. However, longterm repairs/maintenance, and the fact that these E91/TSX wagon will be given to my sons in a few more years when they reach driving age (3-6 years). Is the driving dynamics that much off from a RWD E91 with auto? thanks so much
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ppointer Major 1318 Rep 1,398 Posts Drives: '01 Z3M, '12 335is, '22 540i Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: FLL iTrader: (4) Garage List 2022 BMW 540i [3.83] 2001 M Roadster [7.50] 2025 Lexus IS350 F ... [0.00] 1967 Chevrolet Corv ... [7.14] 2012 BMW 335is [7.17] 2026 GMC Yukon [0.00] 2013 BMW M3 Vert [8.17] 2012 BMW 335i [8.29]	I have driven several Acuras and Hondas, even owned an Accord for a bit. I drove a TSX a while back, but not the wagon. They all drive like Hondas, which is a good thing. Just different than a BMW. I think you have to drive one yourself to decide. So, I "strayed" (my wife's word) last year and bought an S5 with V8 and MT. I thought it would be a good car for Ohio, to contrast our mostly-BMW fleet. I sold it nine months later, replacing it with another e92 MT. I don't think anyone would have been able to explain to me what I had to experience myself.
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M-technik-3 Colonel 3986 Rep 2,145 Posts Drives: E30 M3, E36 M3, 328iT, 335i Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: western Ma iTrader: (0) Garage List 1995 M3 [9.33] 2007 E91 [8.17] 1988 M3 [9.60]	FWD vs RWD or AWD. Me personally I prefer the RWD then AWD and then FWD.
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M-technik-3 Colonel 3986 Rep 2,145 Posts Drives: E30 M3, E36 M3, 328iT, 335i Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: western Ma iTrader: (0) Garage List 1995 M3 [9.33] 2007 E91 [8.17] 1988 M3 [9.60]	Thanks grammar police, English was not my major, but I'll take it with a grain of salt.
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brad850csi Colonel 1340 Rep 2,363 Posts Drives: 16 F13 M6 Comp Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (0)	RWD then AWD rather than FWD __________________ SCOTT26 "So as an admirer of the M5 and a potential customer of an M5 Touring. I would run naked around the streets of Garching if they were to offer one."
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86Zed Get off my lawn 1085 Rep 1,275 Posts Drives: 6MT Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: USA iTrader: (9) Garage List 2022 BMW X3 M40i [10.00] 2007 BMW Z4M Coupe [9.00] 1997 BMW M3 [0.00]	TSX Wagon is a solid reliability play and a good match for early drivers. Paired to an anemic engine and certainly it is no E91 in terms of engagement or potential thrills. Plenty of them left on the road which speaks to it's longevity.
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mecheng77 Colonel 1085 Rep 2,270 Posts Drives: 2007 328i / 2014 M235i Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Ontario Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] [0.00]	As a former Honda owner I will point out they are more prone to rust than a BMW. I've had a brake line completely fail and the rear quarters of my Honda's all suffered rust issues. Ppl fail to mention that important point when it comes to reliability
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hlee96 New Member 9 Rep 22 Posts Drives: BMW 335XI Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Near Mushroom Capital of the World iTrader: (0)	I think the way Japanese engineers there cars are so different than German cars. The reliability issues and level of ease/difficulty with regular service items are also main concerns for these decisions. However, even though everytime I drive my E91 I have a feeling of "please don't have weird noises, smoke, or shakes", its smoothness, handling, and steering always pulls me back to the brand. I spent 3 years between my e90 335xi and the 328xi e91 with a '19 CRV, and I hated every minute in that thing. My DIL's '17 CIVIC was so much better and engaging, and even my '14 Odyssey is better to drive! Thank you for all help!
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