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World's best best drag race accompanied by the world's worst camera work...annoying. Helicopter, too!
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08-29-2013, 09:47 PM | #48 |
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In 2011 race Porsche Cayman R did it at 12.7 sec. and at 111 mph while the new Cayman S equipped with 7 speed DCT managed 12.7 again but slower trap speed at 109.7. So, virtually as fast but in real world was about to fall behind the R if they would be racing each other. It would also fall behind a 1M a second later because 1M also had a higher trap speed but was 0.1 sec. behind to 1/4 mile (or not who knows, different driver, tires etc....too little difference that 0.1, especially thinking that Cayman S was DCT with launch control).
I was expecting the GT-R and SLS fight for the first as it just happened but would bet for the Viper instead of Audi R8 for the third place. Also, not surprised that AMG wagon beats the M6, it can beat many other cars as well with that engine and 4wd.
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AWD and RWD and FWD, 4 cyl, 8 cyl, 12 cyl, wo seats, four seats, five seats, trunk, almost no trunk, etc. A litle bit too much and inapropriate. I will also add few factors that are important: - driver - tires - temperature - amount of gas in the tank GTR is just a cart, with a very shity plastic, interior, design, etc. In fact Focus has a a better fit and finish than GTR. For a car with four seats, all the leather, gizmos, screens, sound system, all the luxury, etc. M6 is one of the best cars out there. And it did just fine. Period. Give the bimmer some room to go and the situation will be different. Last edited by Teutonic; 08-29-2013 at 11:15 PM.. |
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Perhaps the BMW powered McLaren F1? Can Nissan even make an engine that good? Nissan probably pays Motortrend to not include faster cars. They include it in every single race because they say the GTR is updated every year but then again so is the MP4-12C which has over 600hp now, compared to the 590hp version from last year. Only the GTR's improvements allow it to qualify? Hypocrites much? What about the F12 Berlinetta? I bet they have an excuse for that too. I bet they won't even include the 911 turbo S next year because Nissan and Motortrend both know that it would make a meal out of the GTR. These drag races by Motortrend are about as legit as Nissan's lap times at the ring.
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///M should have stayed ///M and let the big boats on the top of the model line up as their respective "Fast Luxury" models. Those boats are by no means worthy of the ///M Badge. Period. The GTR is a very respectful vehicle, not that bad of an interior, it grows on you. It is 100% of what its SUPPOSED to be UNLIKE the ///M-ehhh 6 Its a mean fighting spartan machine and it knows it, Nissan could have made it more luxurious and sell it in the USA as an Infinity but they even realized its purpose and left it as a Nissan and did away with the Infinity interiors. Respect to "Datsun"
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The GTR can't be compared to any of the BMW in the current line. You would need an M3 with the engine of the M6 to be a fair match in power and weight. Have you ever been in a GT-R? Compared with a M6 it looks incredibly cheap looking and bad refined. They are two very very dfferent cars, i don't even talk about the M5 since it's a 4 door sedan vs 2 door coupe. BMW slap the M badge in everything they want. Look at Mercedes, they did even the R-class AMG! M has become the top end of BMW line, no matter of what it was 20-30 years ago.
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A lot of americans are mixing the cars even don't understanding their purpose: let's compare oranges with bananas with pears and apples and after that which is the most tasty? Grapes
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Grows on you? At that money? Do you buy a car by what people say, maybe it will grow on you? Maybe for free, I will accept it, but when I see that interior, I will buy a bimmer plus a Focus Rs. Yeah, right, Infinity could, Infinity up, Infinity down, but they didnt. GTR is the most cheap vehicle I ever seen for the money. If they will put all the gizmos that are in the bimmer, I would like to see in which corner yourGTR will cry. And if I want a cart to get rid of my kidney stones, I will buys something else for less money. M6 is doing what it supposed to do: seat four people and their luggages, offering a luxury ambient, speed, safety, image, beauty, excellent engineering. |
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You lost me there......, You don't seem to be able to process what I wrote. You are way behind, maybe once you get traction you will catch up, sounds familiar?
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exactly my thoughts.
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The Ferrari was not there because I believe they said Ferrari would not give them a car. Each year, they use NEW FOR THAT YEAR cars that they feel are best DRIVERS cars. Why no Aventador? It did not update this year, AND Lamborghini would not give them a car because of how poorly it did last year... (Their Words) Not most expensive, not fastest, not most luxurious, the MOST DRIVER oriented cars. The Focus ST was able to hit corners with the same amount of speed as most of the cars in the group . Randy (MotorTrend Laguna Seca Driver) had a blast driving that Focus, unfortunately a lot more fun than he did in the M6. ///M...arketing really needs to do something. These tests disappointed me.. BMW needs to step it up.
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