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      07-11-2021, 10:06 AM   #111
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I just don't see any scenario where they manufacture new headlights for the M2 seeing they don't even do it for their most expensive models. Even at an angle those bumpers simply won't work with the new 2 series headlight. This could be a prototype before the final 2 series design was settled on.
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If BMW wants to differentiate M Performance from M cars they can start by not giving a 2 Series M mirrors and a Power Dome.
Why not? m240i has as standard: M differential and M suspension set up, both are going to have electric steering and ZF automatic. In fact, the combination of M technology pack and m240i Propack gives the B58 engine to withstand motorsport:quoted from BMW configurator website

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The main difference M2 would have over m240i I could for-see is: the engine and additional chassis braces. I expect the 0-60 to be very close with RWD M2 (current xdrive m240i faster than the current M2C to 0-60).

However if the new M2 has m xdrive like M4/M5, then that would be a game changer
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Why not? m240i has as standard: M differential and M suspension set up, both are going to have electric steering and ZF automatic. In fact, the combination of M technology pack and m240i Propack gives the B58 engine to withstand motorsport:quoted from BMW configurator website

'M Technology Pack

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The increased heat capacity of the braking and cooling systems guarantee a long-lasting high performance under extreme driving conditions (similar to motorsport) (especially in conjunction with high outside temperatures). The M Technology Pack includes upgrades for the drive train cooling system and the M Sport brakes. Also features vehicle-specific high performance tyres on exclusive rims in a wide design as well as wheel arch extensions in the body colour.'







The main difference M2 would have over m240i I could for-see is: the engine and additional chassis braces. I expect the 0-60 to be very close with RWD M2 (current xdrive m240i faster than the current M2C to 0-60).

However if the new M2 has m xdrive like M4/M5, then that would be a game changer
The G87 will get the entire powertrain from the G80/2. That not only means the S58 engine and more bracing, but also the entire drivetrain which will have a much wider track than the G42.
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LMAO looks like Porsche
No it does not

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So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
M3 headlight is nothing like M340i.
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Why do M2 headlights have to be exactly the same as M240?
So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
That's true. However, BMW could certainly break that tradition. The E9X M3 never received the E92 LCI headlights, but then the F8X M3 received the F32 LCI headlights.
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      07-11-2021, 11:12 AM   #118
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M3 headlight is nothing like M340i.
Yeah but it's the same headlight as on the 4er and M4 so it's not a "new" light.
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Why do M2 headlights have to be exactly the same as M240?
So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
That's true. However, BMW could certainly break that tradition. The E9X M3 never received the E92 LCI headlights, but then the F8X M3 received the F32 LCI headlights.
How are we defining tradition? The E36 and E46 M and non M cars had the same headlights.
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no chance.

Surely not.

Oh no.

God no.

Wait... What has china got to do with the new m2?
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So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
M3 headlight is nothing like M340i.
If the next gen m2 looks like that 🥰🥰🥰

That's the best rendering I've seen so far
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Why do M2 headlights have to be exactly the same as M240?
So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
That's true. However, BMW could certainly break that tradition. The E9X M3 never received the E92 LCI headlights, but then the F8X M3 received the F32 LCI headlights.
How are we defining tradition? The E36 and E46 M and non M cars had the same headlights.
Right. M cars sharing headlights with the series cars has been BMW's practice/tradition.
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Why do M2 headlights have to be exactly the same as M240?
So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
That's true. However, BMW could certainly break that tradition. The E9X M3 never received the E92 LCI headlights, but then the F8X M3 received the F32 LCI headlights.
How are we defining tradition? The E36 and E46 M and non M cars had the same headlights.
Right. M cars sharing headlights with the series cars has been BMW's practice/tradition.
Except where the E46 LCI was concerned.
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Why do M2 headlights have to be exactly the same as M240?
So far all M cars have retained the non M series headlights.
That's true. However, BMW could certainly break that tradition. The E9X M3 never received the E92 LCI headlights, but then the F8X M3 received the F32 LCI headlights.
How are we defining tradition? The E36 and E46 M and non M cars had the same headlights.
Right. M cars sharing headlights with the series cars has been BMW's practice/tradition.
Except where the E46 LCI was concerned.
Good point. So not just the E92 M didn't get the LCI headlights, the E46 didn't get them either.
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Too early to tell. As someone else said it doesn’t look too great as a stand-alone part but if it works well with a similar flow on the rest of the car, it could just look awesome.

I really like the new 2er so if they mess this up I’m happy to get an M240i for the wife.

Either way, I already like it better than the horrendous G8x. That front end grows on me less and less not more and more
Agree totally with this last part.
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I just don't see any scenario where they manufacture new headlights for the M2 seeing they don't even do it for their most expensive models. Even at an angle those bumpers simply won't work with the new 2 series headlight. This could be a prototype before the final 2 series design was settled on.
I agree, same headlights across the 2 series. BMW AG is cost cutting, that's why the interiors are the same from 7 series and down—economics of scale.

I highly doubt it's a prototype, as the final design is settled years prior to final validation stage which is now the prototype test drives for the next year through out the world. BMW's designers are already working on the 2 series LCI now.
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I just don't see any scenario where they manufacture new headlights for the M2 seeing they don't even do it for their most expensive models. Even at an angle those bumpers simply won't work with the new 2 series headlight. This could be a prototype before the final 2 series design was settled on.
I agree, same headlights across the 2 series. BMW AG is cost cutting, that's why the interiors are the same from 7 series and down—economics of scale.

I highly doubt it's a prototype, as the final design is settled years prior to final validation stage which is now the prototype test drives for the next year through out the world. BMW's designers are already working on the 2 series LCI now.
Exactly, the design is the first thing to get locked down in a cars design cycle. All other parts have to fit within the confines of the original design.
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i remember thinking F87 M2 front bumper first leaks were waaaaaaay too boxy but in the end that was perfect...
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I guess something like this?
Totally on board if it looks anything like this, and would be happy to have it as a successor to my F87…assuming it retains a similar fun factor.
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Good evening my friend.
Yes, the bumper is a bit strange, but I will tell you something, it gives you the impression that it bites a little if you observe it better, the bumper from the M3 E30. For me it is very good, really, if the bumper really comes out like that, it is very good and I like it. It remains to be seen, what the hidden photos in the streets will show us ....
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If the next gen m2 looks like that 🥰🥰🥰

That's the best rendering I've seen so far
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That's pretty badass if that's what the final looking like. Definitely w00d consider.
Bmw43 did a great job rendering it on the fly. https://www.instagram.com/bmw43__/
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