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Installed Wide Angle side mirrors: DIY
Well...did my first mod on the f06 which was to install wide angle (aspherical) mirrors. Here's a quick/simple DIY if anyone is curious or thought about it.
BMW part nbrs for wide angle/heated/EC (aka auto dimming) mirrors :
I found a set of wide angle/EC/heated driver & passenger side mirrors on eBay...the 1st seller was from Lithuania...but while packing the mirrors, the passenger side mirror was dropped and got cracked. Since it was the last set they had, they contacted me to let me know what happened and cancelled the purchase and refunded me. I found another set from a seller in Berlin Germany which were actually $20 cheaper (a loss that turned into a win) The mirrors are easy to remove especially if you have nylon/plastic pry tools. Just push the top of the mirror inward where the bottom juts outward...then gently pry the bottom half of the mirror glass off the clips that holds the mirror to the motor assembly: Once you free the mirror from the FOUR clips (located at 1:00/5:00/7:00/11:00 o'clock positions)...you will see the electrical harness that supplies heating and dimming functions to the mirror. To release the wiring harness...just take a small tool (like a flat head screwdriver) to slightly raise the clip that secures the harness to the mirror and the harness can then be pushed/pulled out: {note small screwdriver lifting tab that facilitates harness removal} {note the rounded plastic nubs @ 1:00/5:00/7:00/11:00 o'clock positions...this is what the mirror glass clips onto which secures it to the mirror motor assembly} In the pics below you can compare the front and rear sides of the passenger side wide angle/EC/heated mirror glass (on the left) to the original passenger side convex/EC/heated mirror glass (on the right): {front side: Wide angle vs Convex} {note how the wide angle mirror glass comes to the edge of the mirror giving a mm or two of extra reflection capability whereas the original mirror has a thick black band around the circumference of the mirror glass} {rear side: Wide angle vs Convex} In the pics below, you can compare the additional reflective coverage picked up by the wide angle mirrors vs the original driver's side 1:1 ratio mirror and passenger's convex mirrors. The car was parked in the same grocery store parking lot for all of the pics below. You can use the parking space lines to compare the amount of coverage for each mirror. In both cases, the wide angle (aspherical) mirrors provide more coverage. If you don't have the blind spot dectection feature...the aspherical mirrors could be greatly beneficial. {original driver's side "plain" mirror} {wide angle driver's side mirror} {original passenger's side "convex" mirror} {wide angle passenger's side mirror}
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Not something i would have ever thought about, but looks quite beneficial. Nice mod
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Thanks...it's something I've done on my 95 525iT, 97 740iL, 99 540iT, and e53 X5 4.4 . The aspherical wide angle mirrors provides so much better coverage...it''s a must do now (for me) since I've become accustomed to them over the decades. Especially on the driver's side...not sure why the US DOT "poo-poos" them and requires a 1:1 visual ratio (plain mirror glass) on the driver's side.
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Nice write up. This is always the first mod I do to any BMW. It makes driving the car so much safer. It's mind boggling that they don't come from the factory this way. It must be some obscure US regulation, but I have no idea which one...
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It appears those of us that choose to install aspherical/wide angle mirrors are breaking the law...even though we have a greater "field of view": LAWYER DIRECTORY
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Good to know. I'll throw myself on the mercy of the court... Another ridiculous regulation.
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Yep...I made the leap. I traded the e38 in for the f06 at the end of August. I haven't had a chance to take any pics yet...but here's one from the seller. You can see it's a base model (no sport pkg)...but it did have everything else on my "want" list plus some that didn't matter.
For anyone curious about the build sheet...here's the VIN..you can run it through a decoder site: D098676
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If you've never had them on your car before...it may take a week or two to get used to the driver's side.
It's odd how our brains work...because most USA drivers don't have an issue with the convex mirror on the passenger side...but since we are so used to the plain mirror on the driver's side...when you change to the wide angle...it can be a slight adjustment when things in that mirror are now "closer than what they appear". But once you get used to it...you can see from the pics above how much more is visible beside and behind you.
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Wow, never thought I'd see the day Q didn't have an E38! I remember you from my first E38 days back in 2005 on Bimmerboard. Well, glad to have you over here! You are a wealth of information.
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First off, thanks for the write up. Though I do have a question. How do you know which wide-angle mirrors have the dimming function? or do all of the heated ones with the part number you listed automatically have the dimming feature?
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Good idea but here is a easier, cheaper way to get pretty much the same thing. Pic is the mirror on my Corvette but I also put one on the 650.
https://www.amazon.com/Mirrors-Utopi...39655323&psc=1 |
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If you pull up the mirrors in one of the part databases (at least the ones I use)...each mirror part nbr specifically lists the options the mirror performs. These are my favorite 3 part databases...if look up your BMW using your VIN, or even if you search generically...you will see how the database lists what each mirror is capable of: Also, the EC mirrors have a different electrical wiring harness than the regular heated mirrors. The regular heated mirrors usually only have two pin connectors that two single-wires attach to on the back of the mirror glass which powers the heating element. In the pics at the top of the thread, you can see that the EC (autodimming mirrors) have a larger wiring harness that has 4 wires. Hope this answers your question.
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For someone with decades of driving experience in Europe, US regulations allowing only a plain rearview mirror are hard to reason about. Those who have made this mod years ago — what’s your experience, have you ever got into any legal-ish issues? Like if you get pulled over, does it matter for cops if you have convex mirrors on the car? Or when you bring the car back to the dealer for oil change, are convex mirrors an issue?
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Mostly, cops probably don’t even notice or pay attention to the wide angle mirrors nor that the “warning” is missing from the passenger side mirror...they are probably more focused on their own safety (not getting shot). And since it is not against the law to adhere a small “stick on” aspherical mirror (like the link Walt posted)...it probably doesn’t even register that the mirror is supposed to be plain.
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Thanks Qsilver7. That makes sense about the cops. I’m also wondering what would happen in a hypothetical situation when a dealership’s associate hits a wall or another vehicle and starts blaming the mirrors. Would the law be on the associate’s side? Trying to gauge here whether it’s worth the hassle to put flat mirrors back when going to the dealership. Based on what you shared, it’s probably not.
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I'm definitely going to do this, my starboard mirror has the bad fluid stain going so I'll replace both at the same time.
Question: I've actually never done international shipping before, so I'm curious how the customs/taxes/paperwork is handled. Looks like sellers on Ebay include a generic "customs/taxes/paperwork is your problem" statement and wash their hands of it. Does the buyer need to be proactive with customs to avoid holdups and confusion? |
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