BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   6Post.com | BMW 6-Series Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General BMW News and Cars Discussion

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-05-2020, 12:22 PM   #45
RPiM5
Major General
RPiM5's Avatar
2578
Rep
7,857
Posts

Drives: Mexico Blue F10 M5(Mika)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunny San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Wow, I am speechless...
__________________


Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:24 PM   #46
*bimmervibe
Private
*bimmervibe's Avatar
United_States
44
Rep
77
Posts

Drives: 228i xdrive M Sport
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Boston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by IK6SPEED View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrippy View Post
It'll be back. Just a Covid response. I'm sure BMW would rather break up with us here then have fewer scheduled ED customers on record. All companies are distancing themselves from personal contact or risk based off personal interaction. Anyone wanna bet a few bucks ED will be back for the G series M3/4 launch next year?
Sure. As Covid 19 will still be around next year and air travel not expected to hit pre-Covid 19 levels for 3-4 years, I'll happily take that bet.
I really hope you guys are right.

I was planning to pull the trigger in March on an M2C ED. Of course after COVID started I didn't but I was hoping to do it next spring before end of production form the m2.

This is so sad.
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:25 PM   #47
euro*
.
euro*'s Avatar
Canada
657
Rep
956
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (7)

Damn that sucks big time! I'm glad I've done my 2 Euro Deliveries, and it was truly one of the most amazing experiences of my life!

I've worked with BMW Canada on their ED program last year, and I know for a fact that BMW looses a lot of money on the Euro Delivery programs. So probably combined with COVID, this just doesn't make financial sense right now. It is also a sad day for everybody involved with Euro Delivery programs, I've met a lot of people behind the scenes who make this program possible, can't imagine how difficult it will be for them....
Appreciate 2
Ibiza1339.00
F32Fleet2236.00

      05-05-2020, 12:25 PM   #48
325iExecutive
First Lieutenant
325iExecutive's Avatar
Canada
196
Rep
313
Posts

Drives: 2017 M3 Competition
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Oakville, ON

iTrader: (0)

This is bad news. This was on my bucket list to do. I really hope they bring it back.
__________________

2017 BMW M3 Competition Pack, 6MT, Mineral White EXT, Sakhir Orange INT, 437M Blk
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:25 PM   #49
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
6227
Rep
16,607
Posts

Drives: '17 Nardo Grey M4
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On 2 wheels clipping an apex!

iTrader: (26)

RIP!
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:27 PM   #50
kechang
Private First Class
96
Rep
164
Posts

Drives: 2018 M4 ZCP & 2014 Cayenne GTS
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

OMG.. I'm so glad I did my bucket list ED trip few years back...
__________________
2018 F82 M4 ZCP 6MT (ED'ed 09/25/17) | 2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS (baby hauler) | 2013 Lexus CT200h F (commuter) | Past: 2001 E46 330ci (trouble maker)
Appreciate 1
bobert816.00

      05-05-2020, 12:27 PM   #51
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
6227
Rep
16,607
Posts

Drives: '17 Nardo Grey M4
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On 2 wheels clipping an apex!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by IK6SPEED View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrippy View Post
It'll be back. Just a Covid response. I'm sure BMW would rather break up with us here then have fewer scheduled ED customers on record. All companies are distancing themselves from personal contact or risk based off personal interaction. Anyone wanna bet a few bucks ED will be back for the G series M3/4 launch next year?
Sure. As Covid 19 will still be around next year and air travel not expected to hit pre-Covid 19 levels for 3-4 years, I'll happily take that bet.
You and me both. This will be an impact for quite awhile.
Appreciate 1
IK6SPEED4258.50

      05-05-2020, 12:28 PM   #52
tke743
Major
tke743's Avatar
United_States
699
Rep
1,040
Posts

Drives: MW ZCP M3
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Massachusetts

iTrader: (3)

This really sucks. My last 5 cars were ED. It was an awesome program and helped inspire brand loyalty.
__________________
Formerly - "That Guy" in the purple BMW
Appreciate 3
      05-05-2020, 12:30 PM   #53
Ibiza
Lieutenant Colonel
Ibiza's Avatar
United_States
1339
Rep
1,507
Posts

Drives: 2018 F83 ZCP & 2018 F85
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

This is the entire announcement, as GOLFFRR left this out:

Ultimate Delivery Experience Continues in SC as Sun Sets on European Delivery

European Program to Begin Phasing Out Operations in May

As the global market has evolved and BMW NA sales volumes have shifted more heavily towards SAVs during the past serval years, the Performance Center Delivery in Spartanburg, South Carolina has seen continuing growth. Since its beginning in 1999, Performance Center Delivery has grown to more than 28,000 vehicle deliveries, while European Delivery, which has delivered approximately 30,000 vehicles since the 1970s, has experienced a significant decline in participation. Although BMW NA has historically represented an average of 2,000 European Deliveries annually, such deliveries have declined in recent years to under 500. Based on these trends and long-term evaluation, BMW Group will end the European Delivery Program in 2020 and cease accepting reservations as of May 18, 2020.
__________________
2020 F83 ZCP- on order; 2018 F85 1/18 PCD; 2018 F83 ZCP- ED 9/17- PCD 12/17
Retired:2015 X5 50i PCD, 2015 435 vert ED, 2011 X3 PCD, 2011 335is vert ED/PCD, 2007 X3is PCD, 2007 335i vert PCD, 2004 328i vert PCD
Appreciate 4
pz6192432.50
BMWGirlFL893.00
Darth One3837.50

      05-05-2020, 12:35 PM   #54
M///Fanatic
Second Lieutenant
United_States
199
Rep
252
Posts

Drives: E83 X3, F87 M2, 17' i3 REX
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Wisconsin

iTrader: (0)

So broken hearted... this is part of what made the brand who they are!

We will miss you ED program!
Attached Images
      
__________________
2003 Silver Grey M3
Evolving track JUNKY
Appreciate 4
Ibiza1339.00
RowanBuds1300.00
jstein555335.00
Germanauto4747.00

      05-05-2020, 12:35 PM   #55
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
6227
Rep
16,607
Posts

Drives: '17 Nardo Grey M4
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On 2 wheels clipping an apex!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibiza View Post
This is the entire announcement, as GOLFFRR left this out:

Ultimate Delivery Experience Continues in SC as Sun Sets on European Delivery

European Program to Begin Phasing Out Operations in May

As the global market has evolved and BMW NA sales volumes have shifted more heavily towards SAVs during the past serval years, the Performance Center Delivery in Spartanburg, South Carolina has seen continuing growth. Since its beginning in 1999, Performance Center Delivery has grown to more than 28,000 vehicle deliveries, while European Delivery, which has delivered approximately 30,000 vehicles since the 1970s, has experienced a significant decline in participation. Although BMW NA has historically represented an average of 2,000 European Deliveries annually, such deliveries have declined in recent years to under 500. Based on these trends and long-term evaluation, BMW Group will end the European Delivery Program in 2020 and cease accepting reservations as of May 18, 2020.
Their business case makes sense. It is what it is. A more than 75% decline in ED's, but a significant increase in deliveries at the PC makes the decision a no-brainer much to the chagrin of the enthusiast crowd. BMW held on as long as they could, just like with the MT.
Appreciate 2
BMWGirlFL893.00
pz6192432.50

      05-05-2020, 12:35 PM   #56
Ibiza
Lieutenant Colonel
Ibiza's Avatar
United_States
1339
Rep
1,507
Posts

Drives: 2018 F83 ZCP & 2018 F85
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

Wonder how much the ED tags will go on e-bay? I decided earlier this year not to ED/PCD my F83 replacement, and wait for my next ED the G83. Have lasting memories of my 3 ED's, as all good things eventually come to an end.

BMW NA reducing the ED discount from 7% to 5%, BMW AG cost cutting due to high R&D of EV, US Center's hating ED due to the loss of AVP and complaining to the BMW National Dealership Forum, and finally the nail in the coffin was COVID-19– all contributing factors.
Attached Images
     
__________________
2020 F83 ZCP- on order; 2018 F85 1/18 PCD; 2018 F83 ZCP- ED 9/17- PCD 12/17
Retired:2015 X5 50i PCD, 2015 435 vert ED, 2011 X3 PCD, 2011 335is vert ED/PCD, 2007 X3is PCD, 2007 335i vert PCD, 2004 328i vert PCD
Appreciate 5
Sedan_Clan6226.50
'Cane1083.50
JTO242710.50
Simple1113.00
bobert816.00

      05-05-2020, 12:42 PM   #57
JustChris
General
JustChris's Avatar
United Kingdom
10946
Rep
20,292
Posts

Drives: M135i. X2. MX5 30th Editon
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Uk

iTrader: (0)

Wow, sad for you guys. Seems an amazing experience and always annoying not possible from the U.K.
__________________
Daily: M135i Motech #002 Family: X2, Weekend: MX5 30th AE
Whatever: X3M40d, M3CP, M4, M2, RRS, Mini JCW, X5M50d's, 335d, 330d, X1, 520d's & all began 330i
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:43 PM   #58
chicagofan00
Lieutenant Colonel
chicagofan00's Avatar
United_States
1355
Rep
1,674
Posts

Drives: X3 M40i
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Phoenix

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Sucks. One of my bucket list items was to always do ED on an individual M3. I only have myself to blame for not having done it already but still a bummer to see the program go away.
__________________
Current - 2019 G01 X3 ///M40i in Glacier Silver w/Cerium Grey trim delete, gloss black Roundels, gloss black badges, gloss black rear diffuser, gloss black rear spoiler, 3D Design carbon fiber front lip, and floating wheel center caps
Past- 2005 E53 X5 3.0i; 2008 E92 335i
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:44 PM   #59
mundo74
Lieutenant
55
Rep
572
Posts

Drives: F10M5
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: P.Pines, FL

iTrader: (2)

500

really shocked at the 500 number. though it would be in the thousands. hard to keep up the delivery infrastructure for 500. Sure will miss it. such a impressionable life experience. [IMG]undefined[/IMG]
__________________
More power please
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:47 PM   #60
lowrydr310
Robot
193
Rep
643
Posts

Drives: 06 325i
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

While not quite the same personal experience, you could always visit Germany and rent a very nice car and flog the crap out of it. Last time I visited I rented a 118i (3 cylinder turbo) with less that 1000km on it., and within 30 minutes of leaving the airport I was steadily cruising at 220 km/h. That car was FUN!

This made me wonder about the ED program. I'd be afraid to run my own car that hard fresh out of the factory.
Appreciate 3
Ibiza1339.00
Swappy264.50
bobert816.00

      05-05-2020, 12:50 PM   #61
Ibiza
Lieutenant Colonel
Ibiza's Avatar
United_States
1339
Rep
1,507
Posts

Drives: 2018 F83 ZCP & 2018 F85
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

It's not the end of the world, as the M fans can always do a BMW Driving Experience.

Just remember these positives:

1. No more ED lease MF modification
2. No more stress of tracking the vehicle upon ED drop-off, e-mailing the shipping agent to figure out the boat it is on and the US customs delay prior to release to the VPC
3. Can add PIA to our lease payments


I always drove my ED car for less than a few days, as I 'd rather have a car rental in Europe especially outside off Germany.
__________________
2020 F83 ZCP- on order; 2018 F85 1/18 PCD; 2018 F83 ZCP- ED 9/17- PCD 12/17
Retired:2015 X5 50i PCD, 2015 435 vert ED, 2011 X3 PCD, 2011 335is vert ED/PCD, 2007 X3is PCD, 2007 335i vert PCD, 2004 328i vert PCD
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:50 PM   #62
Dog Face Pony Soldier
2006 TIME Person Of The Year
Dog Face Pony Soldier's Avatar
United_States
8428
Rep
6,095
Posts

Drives: M Sport 335i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 335i  [4.87]
Quote:
Originally Posted by pz619 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier View Post
Another CCP Virus fatality. RIP European Delivery program.
We don't know if it's virus related or not, at least not at this stage. So maybe your partisan commentary is better served in, you know, the politics section.
I am making an assumption as to the catalyst behind the abandonment of the program, however nothing partisan was said.

Why do you think the program was canceled?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:50 PM   #63
RowanBuds
Lieutenant Colonel
RowanBuds's Avatar
1300
Rep
1,841
Posts

Drives: LMB F80
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Bergen County, NJ

iTrader: (0)

Whoa. Okay, that's a wrap for me guys. I was trying to figure a way to talk myself into an M2 next spring if my 911 dreams can't materialize, and the ED is the selling factor to have done it.

First the discount was trimmed, now the program altogether disontinued - not even 'same price' as some other OEM's. If this is COVID related, a bit premature IMO especially without including any language to reference this as temporary.

Anyway, just my thoughts - I'm glad I had the opportunity to experience it when I did. Hopefully Porsche/MB/Volvo/Audi(?) don't all follow suit. I'm going to be itching for a Eurotrip badly by the time I'm ready for another new car.
__________________
Le Mans Blue F80 - Munich 5-22-2015 / US 7-7-2015
ED Recap
Arctic Grey G05 - Spartanburg 8-29-2019
X5 PCD Recap
Appreciate 1
bobert816.00

      05-05-2020, 12:56 PM   #64
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
6227
Rep
16,607
Posts

Drives: '17 Nardo Grey M4
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On 2 wheels clipping an apex!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by pz619 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier View Post
Another CCP Virus fatality. RIP European Delivery program.
We don't know if it's virus related or not, at least not at this stage. So maybe your partisan commentary is better served in, you know, the politics section.
I am making an assumption as to the catalyst behind the abandonment of the program, however nothing partisan was said.

Why do you think the program was canceled?
Your presumption holds water. The issue with COVID was the final hammer strike. I think it's pretty obvious to anybody paying attention.
Appreciate 1
Ibiza1339.00

      05-05-2020, 12:57 PM   #65
pz619
Colonel
2433
Rep
2,772
Posts

Drives: F87 M2C
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier View Post
I am making an assumption as to the catalyst behind the abandonment of the program, however nothing partisan was said.

Why do you think the program was canceled?
Right. CCP Virus

Ok moving on here because I lack the capacity to care about this any longer, here was the reason as posted by another member, Ibiza.

European Program to Begin Phasing Out Operations in May

As the global market has evolved and BMW NA sales volumes have shifted more heavily towards SAVs during the past serval years, the Performance Center Delivery in Spartanburg, South Carolina has seen continuing growth. Since its beginning in 1999, Performance Center Delivery has grown to more than 28,000 vehicle deliveries, while European Delivery, which has delivered approximately 30,000 vehicles since the 1970s, has experienced a significant decline in participation. Although BMW NA has historically represented an average of 2,000 European Deliveries annually, such deliveries have declined in recent years to under 500. Based on these trends and long-term evaluation, BMW Group will end the European Delivery Program in 2020 and cease accepting reservations as of May 18, 2020.
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2020, 12:57 PM   #66
JCZ5
Captain
JCZ5's Avatar
718
Rep
862
Posts

Drives: BMW X5 (G05)
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

Was about to call a bunch of dealers and try to get my M2C order in before the 5/18 cutoff. Then, thought better of it. Who knows what it will be like in August/September. May as well stick with PCD.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:27 AM.




6post.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST