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I hope insiders can confirm DCT will not be available at all for future M models, so some like myself can move on to different propositions.
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I think DCT is pretty much a dodo at this point, maybe just maybe it'll drop in a GTS type special edition but those will be a lot of $$$ and a big price to pay just for a DCT. I'll tell you one thing for certain, G87 won't look as good as F87 judging by 2 series leaks
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Pretty much zero chance. The software effort would be > 0 because BMW has no S58 applications that mate with DCT. It would require a lot of testing and development that they don't want to do. The M2 will be far lower volume than M3/M4, so if you didn't see one there, you won't see one in the M2.
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If you think about it, a single piston slider was good enough for E92 M3 front brakes. They weren't the best brakes, but that front caliper was doing a hell of a lot more work than the rears here. Saves weight too. |
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Plus philosophically speaking, if BMW paired S58 with a DCT, they would then have to answer the question as to why they are keeping the redline low at 7200 when DCT can easily handle the 7600 engine limit. If they raise it on a mass production model like an M2, the M3/4 & X3/4M owners will be up in arms.
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Great to hear that they are working on keeping the M2 the driver's choice of the lineup. Wide fenders, smaller dimensions, normal grills, manual, and the S58 should make a great package.
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I think it'll be great, but I question the importance of this weight distribution, personally. It's always felt like an arbitrary statistic. Especially since it matters where the moment is. F/R is way too vague to tell you where that weight is.
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I still would appreciate insiders' clarification on DCT availability. They have never been clear about this.
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Having had to live with a DCT in my 1'er, I say bury the DCT. So far I've seen nothing but problems with DCTs used in cars that are daily drivers or have to deal with stop and go/slow traffic situations.
If they put out a model that is strictly track focused, then I can see a DCT showing up there. But for a car that will see daily driving in non track situations, no way would I want a DCT. |
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But BMW is not using DCTs in any Gxx cars or SUVs. |
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