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      08-16-2021, 03:49 PM   #375
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Let me take this time to point out where I said earlier that I wouldnít buy the first model year and someone responded saying itís basically a Ranger and they canít see why there would be any issues.

This is only the first major problem.

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What would you be afraid of? Other than the body and removable doors and tops and manual transmission, it's pretty much parts from the Ranger. The frame is new, but it's a frame... not too complicated.
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      08-17-2021, 07:54 AM   #376
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Let me take this time to point out where I said earlier that I wouldn’t buy the first model year and someone responded saying it’s basically a Ranger and they can’t see why there would be any issues.

This is only the first major problem.
Maybe not enough people here have owned Fords in the past but I assumed it was somewhat well known that you never buy a first year model Ford or even 2nd year. I got stung with a 2nd model year Ford (more problems in 18 months than every car I have owned in the last two decades combined) and that will never happen again.
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      08-17-2021, 02:28 PM   #377
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Let me take this time to point out where I said earlier that I wouldnít buy the first model year and someone responded saying itís basically a Ranger and they canít see why there would be any issues.

This is only the first major problem.
I did specifically call out the hard top as something that would merit some concern. So I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make.

That said, I bought new a first-year E90 (April 2006 build). It's passed 408,000 miles as of last week. So maybe there is something to the "be scared of the first model year" thing...
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      08-17-2021, 02:35 PM   #378
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Maybe not enough people here have owned Fords in the past but I assumed it was somewhat well known that you never buy a first year model Ford or even 2nd year. I got stung with a 2nd model year Ford (more problems in 18 months than every car I have owned in the last two decades combined) and that will never happen again.
I owned a 1972 Pinto (2nd year), a 1982 Escort (2nd year), 1987 Ranger STX (2nd year for the STX iirc), and a 1999 F150 (2nd year of 10th gen). I survived all of them.
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      08-17-2021, 03:15 PM   #379
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I owned a 1972 Pinto (2nd year), a 1982 Escort (2nd year), 1987 Ranger STX (2nd year for the STX iirc), and a 1999 F150 (2nd year of 10th gen). I survived all of them.
I have owned four Fords over my lifetime and am here as well. I don't think anyone ever said they were death traps except maybe the Pinto.
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I did specifically call out the hard top as something that would merit some concern. So I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make.

That said, I bought new a first-year E90 (April 2006 build). It's passed 408,000 miles as of last week. So maybe there is something to the "be scared of the first model year" thing...
Issues are not Ford specific. This can said for any first year model of anything ever. First year will have highest probability of issues. That will always be the constant.

You understand your 1 example in comparison to the whole picture of production means very little to nothing.
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I have owned four Fords over my lifetime and am here as well. I don't think anyone ever said they were death traps except maybe the Pinto.
It's old data from a long passed FoMoCo, but all of my 2nd year Ford products were mostly problem free is my point. I don't put a lot of stock in the first year model thing. Now my wife's '97 Z3 (2nd year) built in the Spartanburg plant, is a build quality nightmare; the plastics really suck big time. But it just passed 194,000 on Sunday.

Z3's and JB Weld go together like butter and toast.
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Issues are not Ford specific. This can said for any first year model of anything ever. First year will have highest probability of issues. That will always be the constant.

You understand your 1 example in comparison to the whole picture of production means very little to nothing.
Eh, after 30 years of BMW ownership, one thing I have learned is all models have the same set of common problems. So my E90 example is not a one-off, Efthreeoh got lucky, thing.
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      08-22-2021, 10:18 PM   #383
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my buddy text me the other day that he got the new Bronco, I was thinking oh he got the little sport version then he sent me some pics...I was like what?!!! told him to bring it by ASAP as I have yet to see one in the wild ...

he showed up yesterday in it...parked it next to my Rubi to compare them

not a fan of his mall crawler wheels he got put on, but very impressed with the rest...love it














That Bronco looks really nice, although the Fuel wheels are sticking out too far.
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      08-23-2021, 10:39 AM   #384
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Saw a Bronco Wildtrak out in the wild last night, absolute dwarfed me in the R8. I loved it.

Patiently waiting for a "Raptor" version to be released and I'll trade the venerable dog mobile (X5 35d) in for one.
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Another Bronco is possibly planned, this one will have a fixed roof and be more upscale.

https://www.motor1.com/news/529450/f...co-fixed-roof/
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Another Bronco is possibly planned, this one will have a fixed roof and be more upscale.

https://www.motor1.com/news/529450/f...co-fixed-roof/
Pretty much defeats the purpose.
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      10-05-2021, 12:00 PM   #388
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Has anybody received their Bronco? Please share pics and reviews....thanks.
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Pretty much defeats the purpose.
The real "purpose" is to sell more cars.
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