Spun Bearing s63 Engine

[mikerx5]

Originally Posted by Mr. M6

sorry to hear this, this is normal for S63,
it is from BMW engine oil 0w30 or 5w30, this what you used correct?

use 5w40 or better 5w50.

Is the oil more important than the intervals? Is everyone changing the oil frequently?

Curious about this myself!

[Mr. M6]

Originally Posted by mikerx5

Is the oil more important than the intervals? Is everyone changing the oil frequently?

Curious about this myself!

change the oil every 3k miles / 5k KM

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Mr. M6

sorry to hear this, this is normal for S63,
it is from BMW engine oil 0w30 or 5w30, this what you used correct?

use 5w40 or better 5w50.

I have no idea what oil they used i only know they serviced it and nothing untoward got reported to me ! and they still haven't replied to my emails its not good customer service really.

[Mr. M6]

Originally Posted by Elimentsdanny

I have no idea what oil they used i only know they serviced it and nothing untoward got reported to me ! and they still haven't replied to my emails its not good customer service really.

if at dealer then i think its 0w30

[Taheemr]

Originally Posted by Elimentsdanny

I have emailed them twice for there opinion, all i have received is acknowledgement that they have received my email. i think i am going to get a solicitor involved i don't feel this car should have done this. i would like a explanation to why its spun one bearing and what i could have done to prevent it. i really feel that BMW have not made the engine robust enough. i feel the bearings are not good enough for the job.

Send the MD an email at

Chris.Brownridge@bmw.co.uk

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Mr. M6

if at dealer then i think its 0w30

What would you recommend For the UK climate ??

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Taheemr

Send the MD an email at

Chris.Brownridge@bmw.co.uk

Wow thank you i will send it over to him and see if i get a response from him i will let you know

[mikerx5]

Originally Posted by Mr. M6

change the oil every 3k miles / 5k KM

Just about same, 2500 for me

[arucano]

In the discussion on when to change oil, there is a general consensus that changing it sooner rather than later does not hurt. One thing to keep in mind is how the car is used. Many short trips, where the engine does not get up to operating temperature for a long time has a very negative effect on the oil service life. Long trips will flash of any moister from the oil and have a lower impact on oil life. My commute (before I retired) was a fifty mile each way of highway driving. When the valve cover gaskets were changed at 240K miles (non-turbo), the engine was still spotless internally.

[Mr. M6]

Originally Posted by Elimentsdanny

What would you recommend For the UK climate ??

i know some people using 5w50 there but you can go 5w40 still better than 0w30

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Taheemr

Send the MD an email at

Chris.Brownridge@bmw.co.uk

Fantastic i received a reply from his secretary this morning only to say chis has passed over to the correct team and you will receive a reply by the end of tomorrow .... Thank you for your help :-)

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Mr. M6

i know some people using 5w50 there but you can go 5w40 still better than 0w30

Why don't BMW study the oil and recommend or put in the more suited to the engine ?????

[Mr. M6]

Originally Posted by Elimentsdanny

Why don't BMW study the oil and recommend or put in the more suited to the engine ?????

i think for emission and fuel consumption, you can ask them

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Mr. M6

i think for emission and fuel consumption, you can ask them

Good point i think i will ask them once i get my answer to the first question :-) i will share what they say

[Marcus Frost]

Originally Posted by arucano

In the discussion on when to change oil, there is a general consensus that changing it sooner rather than later does not hurt. One thing to keep in mind is how the car is used. Many short trips, where the engine does not get up to operating temperature for a long time has a very negative effect on the oil service life. Long trips will flash of any moister from the oil and have a lower impact on oil life. My commute (before I retired) was a fifty mile each way of highway driving. When the valve cover gaskets were changed at 240K miles (non-turbo), the engine was still spotless internally.

It is frustrating to have always the finger pointed at BMW and not at the people who own and drive these cars as being the primary culprit.

High quality oil, changed regularly, with a 100% adherence to load only at proper operating temperatures and no shitty no-name tunes can guarantee a long, trouble free experience with the S63. The problem is these days these cars exist in extraordinary abundance, many which were leased in their early days (and likely abused) then make it into the secondary market with a truly unknown history and 10 years later the motor pops.

I've run a DME tune on my M6 for almost 30,000 miles with plenty of spirited highway jaunts and my oil analysis comes out spotless every time. This car never sees above 4k rpm until oil is at full operating temp. It's frustrating, given the car takes a while to get oil up to temp in cooler temps, but the proof of longevity is in the pudding.

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost

It is frustrating to have always the finger pointed at BMW and not at the people who own and drive these cars as being the primary culprit.

High quality oil, changed regularly, with a 100% adherence to load only at proper operating temperatures and no shitty no-name tunes can guarantee a long, trouble free experience with the S63. The problem is these days these cars exist in extraordinary abundance, many which were leased in their early days (and likely abused) then make it into the secondary market with a truly unknown history and 10 years later the motor pops.

I've run a DME tune on my M6 for almost 30,000 miles with plenty of spirited highway jaunts and my oil analysis comes out spotless every time. This car never sees above 4k rpm until oil is at full operating temp. It's frustrating, given the car takes a while to get oil up to temp in cooler temps, but the proof of longevity is in the pudding.

I have always waited for the cars oil to be normal too ... but don't you think that BMW should have been doing oil analysis as standard as the car had always been serived by them !!! or dont you think they should ??? i think they could have done more to spot or notify the ware before it failed !!! i do ??

[Elimentsdanny]

Originally Posted by Elimentsdanny

I have always waited for the cars oil to be normal too ... but don't you think that BMW should have been doing oil analysis as standard as the car had always been serived by them !!! or dont you think they should ??? i think they could have done more to spot or notify the ware before it failed !!! i do ??

also NOTE that this is very common on all the M cars but after reading many forums it appears the Merc AMG model's don't really suffer from this well no where near as common as the M cars do and they produce more power !!! you have to ask yourself why is that ???

[mikerx5]

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost

It is frustrating to have always the finger pointed at BMW and not at the people who own and drive these cars as being the primary culprit.

High quality oil, changed regularly, with a 100% adherence to load only at proper operating temperatures and no shitty no-name tunes can guarantee a long, trouble free experience with the S63. The problem is these days these cars exist in extraordinary abundance, many which were leased in their early days (and likely abused) then make it into the secondary market with a truly unknown history and 10 years later the motor pops.

I've run a DME tune on my M6 for almost 30,000 miles with plenty of spirited highway jaunts and my oil analysis comes out spotless every time. This car never sees above 4k rpm until oil is at full operating temp. It's frustrating, given the car takes a while to get oil up to temp in cooler temps, but the proof of longevity is in the pudding.

For clarity, are using An oil other than the standard? Thanks

[JDMSteven]

Elimentsdanny that's because they're better engine builders than BMW M

[JBF650]

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost

It is frustrating to have always the finger pointed at BMW and not at the people who own and drive these cars as being the primary culprit.

High quality oil, changed regularly, with a 100% adherence to load only at proper operating temperatures and no shitty no-name tunes can guarantee a long, trouble free experience with the S63. The problem is these days these cars exist in extraordinary abundance, many which were leased in their early days (and likely abused) then make it into the secondary market with a truly unknown history and 10 years later the motor pops.

I've run a DME tune on my M6 for almost 30,000 miles with plenty of spirited highway jaunts and my oil analysis comes out spotless every time. This car never sees above 4k rpm until oil is at full operating temp. It's frustrating, given the car takes a while to get oil up to temp in cooler temps, but the proof of longevity is in the pudding.

Finally…. Some wise and sage words in this painful thread ….. not only do I agree that more often than not these engine failures are due to either poor maintenance, poor service history and as you say ‘no name tunes’ etc etc I’ve one more to add to this list… people putting in cheap low grade and poor fuel ….
Our V8’s in hot v are known for being finicky and don’t take kindly to abuse, if you treat a throughbred poorly then what do you expect…..
sure you can have bad luck and perhaps in this blokes case it is and for that our sympathies to him. However moaning on to BMW about this now that the car is years out of warranty and after multiple owners is a little churlish.
If BMW helps out be grateful, they don’t have to , if they don’t well your choices are clear .
I hope it works out for this guy but please stop banging on ‘this is all BMWs fault’ …. I you did your homework you knew the risks this was not a brand new car … caveat emtor

[Marcus Frost]

Originally Posted by mikerx5

For clarity, are using An oil other than the standard? Thanks

I proudly use LiquiMoly Special Tec LL 5W30.

I also have regular Blackstone Labs analysis done on my car.

Small details, big dividends.

[danielgmanm6]

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost

I proudly use LiquiMoly Special Tec LL 5W30.

I also have regular Blackstone Labs analysis done on my car.

Small details, big dividends.

I figured 0w40 would be the best alternative over 0w30?? Less shearing at high Temps and better cold start protection..