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      11-17-2021, 08:34 PM   #89
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The headlights are so small and the grilles so large, might as well remove the headlights altogether and turn the grilles into the headlights.
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      11-17-2021, 08:39 PM   #90
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It's not terrible.
Not exactly a compliment...
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C'mon guys
BMW grills are no where near as big as those on Merc Audi and Lexus.
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I mean, I can handle a little weird and a dose of quirk [gestures toward the X6M & i3S in the garage], but BMW, now you're just plain scaring me.
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... and there's a bit of Audi "shield" to the thing, too, eh?
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      11-17-2021, 11:24 PM   #95
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This will sell real good. BMW design and marketing on point again. All the haters aren't the target.
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This is so ugly makes me want to sell my e92 m3 just to not be associated with bmw. I'll never buy a new bmw again.
My banglemobile is now for sale. Never ever bmw again. And I have been driving bmw only for the last decade
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      11-18-2021, 05:37 AM   #98
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Gotta admire Dukec. Gets heavily criticized for the beaver tooth grille, brushes off the criticism, comes back with an even bigger grille design and an attention catching light stripe wrapped around it. Dude got some serious b…rain damage
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Because those are the outliers. I remember times where I'd walk into a BMW dealer and wish I could have one of everything they made. Now? There's one, maybe two I'd consider. There just isn't much that's compelling or exciting coming out of BMW right now. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. This new XM is terrible and embodies everything that's wrong with BMW right now.
Oh so the M2 Competition, M2 CS and M5 CS wasn't enough, and the new G8X which improved over everything compared to the F8X, give me a break smh. Almost everyone is just dead set on complaining about everything.
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How will this work, will there be an XM and an X8 for non M model? I would like to get the equivalent of the X5 45e, will this be the XM 45e or X8 since it's a non M model.
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      11-18-2021, 08:31 AM   #102
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How will this work, will there be an XM and an X8 for non M model? I would like to get the equivalent of the X5 45e, will this be the XM 45e or X8 since it's a non M model.
On the i4 it was reported they are no longer differentiating between "m sport" and "M" cars. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens here, since this vehicle is supposed to be unique to the M division. All XMs would be M cars.

BMWblog hinted that they won't follow the normal "45e" naming structure and the different engines will have actual names. They were at least correct in saying this would be called "XM" and not an X8 or X8M earlier this summer.
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      11-18-2021, 11:00 AM   #103
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I think BMW is very forward thinking. The bigger the grills, the less use of sheet metal, plastic and paint. Something something sustainable. lol
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I think BMW is very forward thinking. The bigger the grills, the less use of sheet metal, plastic and paint. Something something sustainable. lol
While we always talk about how large the BMW grills are we forget that Audi, Lexus and even Genesis have a much large sf grill area.
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Oh so the M2 Competition, M2 CS and M5 CS wasn't enough, and the new G8X which improved over everything compared to the F8X, give me a break smh. Almost everyone is just dead set on complaining about everything.
Hardly. I've been driving nothing but BMW since 1997. I went through the Bangle era and loved all of them, hell I bought three. BMW right now is the Ultimate Gimmick Machine.
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To be fair to BMW, Audi is doing the same thing
I think this car is cybertruck of BMW with that grille. I hate them man, there is zero love about these designs, just some agression. I look back at my E90, F30, Z4 Coupe, E36... And I just can't love these new designs.

I did not own Audi ever in my life, but I do like their RS3s 5 cylinder engines in cars, Id go for the RS3 sedan. Having said that, not Audi fan. I like Porsche design language most, and even they suffer from bloated grille syndrome, like on the rear of 992 911 models. Still, they age better.
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While we always talk about how large the BMW grills are we forget that Audi, Lexus and even Genesis have a much large sf grill area.
Most new Audis sport front ends that are almost entirely grilles. It appears that the typical automotive buyer has no issues with large grilles. Heck they may even like them. It's clear that enthusiasts opinions don't correlate to general sales numbers as BMW has been doing quite well as have other brands sporting these large grilles.
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I dig it…
Looks promising and very imposing.
The slits towards the rear of the hood near the windshield are interesting.
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Pretty sure my e46 would fit in that left kidney grill.
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