03-05-2021, 05:36 PM | #1 |
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Hey Guys ,got some pics to share on the engine rebuild for my M6,
Anyway it turns out I damaged a piston due to a lean condition from a failed fuel injector , Yeah, Failed injector=Lean condition=Tuned=Boom.My engine had 36k miles on it the rod bearings were fine and no bent connecting rods. The messed up thing is I had a Black stone oil analysis done when the engine was smoking and it came back good which lead me to believe it was a Turbo and some bad diagnostic from another shop, that said these turbos always go bad its very common on the S63tu he couldn't have been more wrong, and being on the forums never really heard of our turbos failing ,just waste gate rattle. I will load more pics when I get more (The pics below are from the old motor) The build is going to consist of: Rebuilt cylinder heads CP Carillo Forged rods and pistons(balanced) Custom crank bearing clearance and bearings Fabworx wrapped downpipes Stage 1 Pure Turbos SSP Spec R clutch JB4 Bluetooth controller for Maps and Meth JB4 Methanol kit DME custom tune Methanol tank (not sure what tank yet) Project Gamma Charge coolers Project Gamma Charge pipes Project Gamma intakes
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Crazy that the piston skirt broke like that. What tune/mods did you have on the motor before the bang? Which injector # was that? Any indications before?
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That is hard to look at but sincerely appreciate your sharing the intel. Do you know if the injector was/is covered under the batch that resulted in the extended coverage from bmw? More importantly is there a way to watch for this in the future.
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Thanks man,I will share what I know hopefully it helps other users out
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DME stage 3 ,DP,exhaust,intakes ,its from a bad injector so this can happen to stock tune on a hard pull,I had the DME Tune for 2 years no problems, its the crappy injectors fault Its was cylinder #8 The only indication I had was it started to smoke oil from the exhaust but very little got much worse over the next week or 2 and its not my daily ,I was doing some hard pulls too I can't believe it didn't explode ,the engine was running when it got to the shop But yeah,no check engine light ,no drive train malfunction ,started right up ,no hesitation or rough idle just smoke Quote:
There really is know way to watch for this, the only way to help is to have your injectors changed at 40K miles to play it safe,it might even be less than that I will find out
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03-06-2021, 05:46 PM | #11 |
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Here is the CP Carillo rods and pistons, the rings are designed for the Alusil cylinders,The cylinder wall must be recoated /refinished before there installed.I believe a couple years ago you had to install steel sleeves in the block in order to run a forged piston .
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You just did a rebuild ? They should have changed them , mine were included in the build ,I’m surprised if they would build a new engine with old injectors
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They didn't, and now I wish I would have pushed for it. I have a feeling that this project is going to require some considerable efforting.
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Damn those are pretty! Coming from the old setup of DME Stage 3, what power #'s are you looking for now? |
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Map 1 650whp 93octane+Meth for cooling Map2 700whp 93octane+ Meth for cooling and octane boost Map3 750whp Race gas + Meth These number will be done on a Mustang Dyno,there just estimate numbers I will get the exact numbers when there done ,on the race gas file they will max out the stage 1 turbos probably close to 800whp ,I really dont want to push it and keep it safe and conservative
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Went with red valve covers ,can't see them that good once all crap gets put on
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I just had my engine replaced by BMW and they didn’t replace injectors either 😒 I’m at 32k miles so I’m a little nervous. They just transferred them
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Curious if there is any benefit to ceramic coating the exhaust/turbo manifold.
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That looks great!
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If your stock I wouldn't be to worried but you should think about changing them at 40k to play it safe ,change the spark plugs while your in there
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