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In the CAR+ interview with BMW M about the M2 and M4 GTS (December 2015) the interviewer mentioned that manuals were expected to represent ± 40% of the M2 sales (source: here): You'll be giving engine orders through either a six-speed manual, or, unlike the 1M, an optional dual-clutch gearbox; the latter likely to take 60% of sales.In an interview with Digital Trends (January 2017) BMW M CEO Frank Van Meel disclosed that manuals represent ± 20% of the M2 sales, which he considers to be "a lot" (source: here): Q: Do you think BMW M will continue to offer cars with manual transmissions ? How long term do you think that will remain an option ?
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Expectations for the new 911 GT3 6MT:
"It also gave chance to revisit discussion of the manual option with Andreas Preuninger. I start, cheekily, by reminding him that at the launch of the previous GT3 the PDK-only decision was pitched as a big improvement, largely on the basis of its faster lap times. "Well it is still faster on track," Preuninger says, "but lap times aren't everything, are they?" Preuninger stresses his ambition has always been to offer transmission choice - "like whether you take the ceramic brakes" - but limited development resources restricted what was possible. But he admits the PDK-only GT3 displeased some traditional buyers, with the huge popularity of the manual-only Cayman GT4 - and an increase in engineering resources - making the case. This was initially used in the 911 R, but the plan was always to spread the costs by offering it in the GT3 as well. Preuninger says he doesn't know how many people will opt for the manual - a zero-cost option tick in most territories - but reckons it could be as high as a third of production. "If it's less than 20 per cent then I'm in trouble," he admits."
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The good news for DCT owners is in general the DCT in the M4 and M3 has been pretty reliable as far as I can tell so in theory you should be good........ Obviously everything fails at some point, but should get 200k+ miles out of it.... ? Crossing my fingers.
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On E46 cars, people are converting them to manual rather than replacing a regular auto trans... let alone an expen$ive auto trans like a DCT. In my experience... the E46 M3 SMG made it nowhere near 200K. Do you seriously think people are getting to that high mileage? have you seen a thread on this? I'm really rather curious. I decided to post a thread in the E9x forums. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1383377 Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 05-10-2017 at 05:12 PM.. |
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=894069&page=3 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=503610&page=4 |
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To be honest though.. I would not EXPECT issues prior to 100K for any transmission. I did find this tidbit of info for the E9x " I've been quoted 13k for a DCT transmission replacement and 8k for a 6mt replacement. But... with 6mt, they can repair/replace parts instead of having to replace the entire transmission. Or at least that's what I was told by a SA. " So there you go... DOUBLE the price for the DCT vs the 6 speed. BMW gets you for 3-5K on the initial purchase.. then again for even MORE down the road.. |
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This person says 209k then they did some preventative work on the engine and transmission clutch. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1053 Last edited by akkando; 05-10-2017 at 09:45 PM.. |
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Worldwide is about 20%, as said by the head of M on an interview which I think made the News section (Death of Manuals or something like that) |
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