Uncomfortable front seat on long trip.

[TGrits10]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

I am 6'5'' and still can find a comfortable position to being able to drive it 7hr (El Paso - Houston) or 3hr (Hou - Dallas).

If I had the torso length of a taller man, I wouldn't have the issue with seat position that I do. Or, at least, it would be less of an issue? Sink the rear of the seat bottom down to create more of a tilt and get the thighs involved. Long torso reaches up to place the eyeballs above the dashboard, problem solved. Just gotta get to work on that magic grow-grow potion...

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

The reason why seats are so firm is ventilation and massage (if available). Similar seats in 5 or X5 have much more thicker cushion because there are no other integrated devices.

That's interesting, now I'm curious and would like to sit in both versions of the seats side-by-side for... science. Definitely not idle car-guy curiosity, nope.

[Qsilver7]

Originally Posted by TGrits10

That's interesting, now I'm curious and would like to sit in both versions of the seats side-by-side for... science. Definitely not idle car-guy curiosity, nope.

I can verify what TGrits10 said. My 2013 (had) Nappa & 2015 F06 650ix GCs has Merino ventilated and massaging multi-contour seats...and my 2014 F15 X5 50i has the Nappa multi-contour seats (no vent/no massage).

The cushions in the ventilated/massaging seats are firmer (but I don't personally find them uncomfortable...just firmer)...and the cushions in the non-ventilated/massaging seat is softer.

But on very hot days when ambient temps are in the 80s/90s...I do prefer the firmer ventilated/massaging seats over the softer non ventilated/massaging seat because of the circulation of air within the permeable layer below the seating surface of the ventilated seats. The non ventilated (soft) seats feel hotter...and "swamp-a$$" is real. The heat from your body + the residual heat from the seat surfaces being inside a locked vehicle in the hot sun...makes the "soft" non ventilated seats less comfortable on your a$$ & back.

I also give points to the ventilated seats (though firmer) in wet weather. The air circulation in those seats helps evaporate wet clothing...from either sweat or rain/snow. And if the temps are cool and your clothing is wet...you can help evaporate the moisture as well as turn on the heat to help with the "chill" affect of damp clothing.

[TGrits10]

Originally Posted by Qsilver7

But on very hot days when ambient temps are in the 80s/90s...I do prefer the firmer ventilated/massaging seats over the softer non ventilated/massaging seat because of the circulation of air within the permeable layer below the seating surface of the ventilated seats. The non ventilated (soft) seats feel hotter...and "swamp-a$$" is real. The heat from your body + the residual heat from the seat surfaces being inside a locked vehicle in the hot sun...makes the "soft" non ventilated seats less comfortable on your a$$ & back.

I also give points to the ventilated seats (though firmer) in wet weather. The air circulation in those seats helps evaporate wet clothing...from either sweat or rain/snow. And if the temps are cool and your clothing is wet...you can help evaporate the moisture as well as turn on the heat to help with the "chill" affect of damp clothing.

^This^ is why ventilated seats are very nearly a dealbreaker must-have option for me, being a relatively sweaty person and living in a swamp where it's almost always either brutally hot or raining (sometimes both!). I too have been impressed with the drying effect after dashing through the rain to the car.

[Kolianovskyi]

Originally Posted by TGrits10

^This^ is why ventilated seats are very nearly a dealbreaker must-have option for me, being a relatively sweaty person and living in a swamp where it's almost always either brutally hot or raining (sometimes both!). I too have been impressed with the drying effect after dashing through the rain to the car.

Not sure what you are talking about. That ventilation has so weak flow so barely can feel.

[Kolianovskyi]

These are seats from regular 530i and they are much much more comfortable.

[Qsilver7]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Not sure what you are talking about. That ventilation has so weak flow so barely can feel.

What I took from his statement is the effect the ventilated seats have on wicking away moisture/sweat as you sit against the seats. Instead of moisture from your body wicking into the leather and both the seat and your backside are now moist as you continue to sweat (or remain damp from wet clothing).

The air circulating through the permeable layer below the perforated leather...wicks moisture away from your body with an evaporation effect. The ventilated seats aren't blowing cooled air on your body, but moving air in a wicking affect.

If you get caught in the rain or snow and your clothing is wet...using the ventilation feature can help your clothing dry...and again, your seats and your clothing are not just letting you stew in dampness due to the fans running in the seat.

[Chaos236]

Had cushion week plus, butt still gats sore after 45 minutes. Only in last couple months.
Have heat/vent,not massage.