Thinking About Grabbing a 4k TV Soon? Better Read THIS First!

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by jlstyle

I'm curious how HDR would really work with the regular programs.
I have top of the line LG 65" OLED but I honestly don't see anything special when I'm watching my regular tv shows. Only time I can wow at it is when I browse 4k videos from youtube that has very vivid contents. Movies and what not, unless you are watching a transformer, it all looks the same.

Like 4k, it is all about the content. This graph made by LG explains it well:

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by imserious

What's your top pick for a 75" under $2500?

I'm not into spending $10k for the latest tech when last year's is more than enough. Basically I found Vizio 4k and Samsung 1080p and 4K LED TVs in this range.

I, too, am into a big screen with good quality picture. I don't need all the add on features even though I'll take 'em if they are included.

My personal pick for "Overall value - size - bang 4 the buck goes to the: Vizio M70-C3 It is FALD (full array led)
It has gotten rave reviews since it's release and what makes it even more sweet is that it can easily be had for under $2k! http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m-...&skuId=3733013

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by danniexi

i entertained the idea of getting a new TV, but the recent selection is shit poor. EVERYTHING is either some BS "smart" tv or has that 3D gimmick nonsense. whatever happened to having a normal huge-ass display. thats all i want.

SMART TV is very handy for someone like me that is either a) pulling out cable or b) has a second or third set and no freaking way I am running tv cable through finished walls.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

I agree with you. I have been considering a new TV for a while now, but can't find anything that had a picture quality better than my 2011 Samsung plasma... within my price range at least, lol.

I had a Samsung Plasma, a year older I think, C6500. It succumbed to samsungitis ... see here ...

http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussio...sma-tv-530929/

[zx10guy]

It's a shame no one ever considers having their TVs ISF calibrated. People would rather dump money into buying a new TV rather than having their current one adjusted to perform better.

[imserious]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

My personal pick for "Overall value - size - bang 4 the buck goes to the: Vizio M70-C3 It is FALD (full array led)
It has gotten rave reviews since it's release and what makes it even more sweet is that it can easily be had for under $2k! http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m-...&skuId=3733013

The M75 is at the top of my list. Thanks for the input!

Waiting for Black Friday...

[RABAUKE]

5 years ago I bought a Sony Bravia 60" LED, I still love the thing. I usually get ansy for the new gadget but so far I have seen nothing that makes me want to part with the cash.

[radiofrequency]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Still keep my Pioneer-Kuro ,when I see others my Pioneer quality image is jaw dropping .

Agreed, my Kuro still amazes me after all these years. We are selling our home and one proviso is that the Kuro will not be part of the sale. (Mounted TV's are considered fixtures and typically go with the sale of the house). There are 5 additional mounted screens so the Buyer can have those, but the Kuro goes with me!

[slayer72]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

My personal pick for "Overall value - size - bang 4 the buck goes to the: Vizio M70-C3 It is FALD (full array led)
It has gotten rave reviews since it's release and what makes it even more sweet is that it can easily be had for under $2k! http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m-...&skuId=3733013

I picked up the Vizio M49-C1 2 weeks ago, not really impressed with the picture over the crappy Samsung I took down. And theres not much 4K content (Directtv, Netflix all require upgrades for content $$). But for $299 delivered it was hard to pass up. The apps and double sided remote is cool, I also did a free 95% calibration, meh.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by radiofrequency

Agreed, my Kuro still amazes me after all these years. We are selling our home and one proviso is that the Kuro will not be part of the sale. (Mounted TV's are considered fixtures and typically go with the sale of the house). There are 5 additional mounted screens so the Buyer can have those, but the Kuro goes with me!

Yep same thing here it's a keeper , back in time I saw all of them in the shop but I stopped on the Pioneer presentation because the image is actually an eye catcher .

My Pioneer Kuro screen is on my wall in my homecinema and build it all by myself .
My speakers are from Bowers & Wilkins , 2 fronts , mid , and 2 surrounds .
Sub is made in the US and from Velodyne .
Heavy Amp. is also from Pioneer .
0 cables are visible but it was a lot of work , and I did it in 4 months after my work and in weekends !
Deep pockets were required ,knowing that the prices are insane in Belgium... but I thought C'mon we only live ones.

[bimmerfrk]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

I actually happen to be considering a replacement for my current 80" 1080p. I am NOT in a emergency or anything, but, I am a HUGE Home Theater guy and Techie! So as I have been researching possible replacements, there is a particular technology and acronym I am seeing repeated: HDR - High Dynamic Range (not to be confused with 4k!)

Here are some great and informative reads and reviews and why it should be tops on your list when looking for a new TV:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/2/924...that-new-4k-tv
http://fortune.com/2015/10/08/hdr-tv/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...-module&robot=

I don't know it sounds like bullshit to me. 4k came out and everyone that was going to buy one has already bought one. Obviously the industry needs a new term to keep pushing new $7000 dollar TVs.

I bought a 4k it was awesome watching all those compressed 4k you tube videos....... when these go on sale go to best buy and compare the picture to a new 4k set. I doubt it will be equivalent to even a sub par BJ.

Just saying.

[MChat]

Marketing gimmick or not. The wife and I purchased a 65" Sony 4kTV this last year because my old 1080i TV had finally given up (originally purchased in 2005). Cost around 2500 out the door. We sit about 12-15 feet away from the TV and have been very pleased with its performance even though we have only (thus far) watched upscaled video. The passive 3D works well and we found that even the cheap 3D glasses you get at the movie theatres work; and I was surprised at how well the 2D to 3D conversion works. (Although we very rarely watch anything in 3D).

Compared to our old 1080i rear projection TV, it is like looking out the window at real life. We liked the 4K TV so much, we bought a 50" (non-3D) version for our bedroom.

[BayMoWe335]

Upscaling an image is not the same as native resolution.

Nearly all HD is broadcast in 720p or 1080i.

Even current TV programming hasn't even taken full advantage of 1080p, let alone 4K. 1080p is only truly seen with Blu-Ray.

To me, you're throwing your money away on 4k because 99% of the content you watch has to be upscaled to 4k, which is a lot like racing stripes on your BMW to make it faster. If the content isn't there, upscaling it isn't going to do a lot.

Plus, from 10 feet away, I doubt anyone can even tell the difference.

Stores will fool you by showing you 4k content run off a hard drive. Then you get it home and wonder why the NFL looks the same as your 1080p flastscreen.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

It's a shame no one ever considers having their TVs ISF calibrated. People would rather dump money into buying a new TV rather than having their current one adjusted to perform better.

Here's the thing, I know a little about colour and am also aware that many screens (TV, PC screens, phones etc) are far too blue by default. HOWEVER, EVERY SINGLE calibration I have seen in INSANELY warm, just crazy warm, that warmth may be correct in terms of working towards a neutral grey but in reality it looks absolute shite.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

Upscaling an image is not the same as native resolution.

Nearly all HD is broadcast in 720p or 1080i.

Even current TV programming hasn't even taken full advantage of 1080p, let alone 4K. 1080p is only truly seen with Blu-Ray.

To me, you're throwing your money away on 4k because 99% of the content you watch has to be upscaled to 4k, which is a lot like racing stripes on your BMW to make it faster. If the content isn't there, upscaling it isn't going to do a lot.

Plus, from 10 feet away, I doubt anyone can even tell the difference.

Stores will fool you by showing you 4k content run off a hard drive. Then you get it home and wonder why the NFL looks the same as your 1080p flastscreen.

This. Not to mention that to see the difference you'd need a screen that was 4 times the size of your current one!

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by MChat

Marketing gimmick or not. The wife and I purchased a 65" Sony 4kTV this last year because my old 1080i TV had finally given up (originally purchased in 2005). Cost around 2500 out the door. We sit about 12-15 feet away from the TV and have been very pleased with its performance even though we have only (thus far) watched upscaled video. The passive 3D works well and we found that even the cheap 3D glasses you get at the movie theatres work; and I was surprised at how well the 2D to 3D conversion works. (Although we very rarely watch anything in 3D).

Compared to our old 1080i rear projection TV, it is like looking out the window at real life. We liked the 4K TV so much, we bought a 50" (non-3D) version for our bedroom.

That's got more to do with the shitty quality of projection TV's. Unless the content you are pumping in is at 4K, you're just not going to see the difference because there isn't one.

[TXSTYLE]

I say, Whatever YOUR budget can handle and suits your individual needs for your Home Theater, go for it!

[///F80M3]

I think cable/satellite needs improvement. I have 4k tv's but the picture quality sucks because it's not at it's full potential. Cable company's need to increase bandwidth so we can get the full picture instead of compressed 1080p.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by ///F80M3

I think cable/satellite needs improvement. I have 4k tv's but the picture quality sucks because it's not at it's full potential. Cable company's need to increase bandwidth so we can get the full picture instead of compressed 1080p.

They are still at 720p FFS, 1080 is miles off and 4K, it'll be thousand years. You need to remember that when you double resolution it is FOUR TIMES the bandwidth.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by ///F80M3

I think cable/satellite needs improvement. I have 4k tv's but the picture quality sucks because it's not at it's full potential. Cable company's need to increase bandwidth so we can get the full picture instead of compressed 1080p.

Agreed! These fuggers are so money hungry it's sickening! We already are being bent over with these lame ass scaled back internet speeds. I have friends in Europe and Asia that laugh at the speeds and prices we pay here.

[danniexi]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

SMART TV is very handy for someone like me that is either a) pulling out cable or b) has a second or third set and no freaking way I am running tv cable through finished walls.

great, which is fine, but there ARE others that do not need/want ANY of those features.

personally i just want a display only to connect to my receiver. it'd be nice to buy one without having to spend MORE money and include all these extra "features." eventually I'm going to have to invest in a projector or something.

on top of all that (i'm putting my tinfoil hat on here), but the fact that these sets come with a microphone/camera and connect to the internet? i don't need samsung or whoever to listen to what i watch/say/do.

[///F80M3]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

They are still at 720p FFS, 1080 is miles off and 4K, it'll be thousand years. You need to remember that when you double resolution it is FOUR TIMES the bandwidth.

Exactly, I think its time for the upgrade. Forget 4k, at least give me full 1080p lol