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      01-11-2020, 03:44 PM   #1
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Worth upgrading from M6 GC to M8 GC or Event M850

I love my M6 GC but I’m often tempted to upgrade at some stage to the 8er. Whilst there are some appealing points I keep ending up with the verdict I’m better off with what I have. I want to desire the 8er but I simply don’t, yet. Anyone else having this dilemma? I also don’t see the value in the premium cost over what the M6 was/is. Maybe I’ll be more tempted when their prices plummet. My personal likes are the 4WD and some tech but my main issue is that whilst the M6 GC is a little dated (I’d like to think becoming a rare classic) the M8 GC doesn’t seem very special looking from certain angles.
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I love my M6 GC but I'm often tempted to upgrade at some stage to the 8er. Whilst there are some appealing points I keep ending up with the verdict I'm better off with what I have. I want to desire the 8er but I simply don't, yet. Anyone else having this dilemma? I also don't see the value in the premium cost over what the M6 was/is. Maybe I'll be more tempted when their prices plummet. My personal likes are the 4WD and some tech but my main issue is that whilst the M6 GC is a little dated (I'd like to think becoming a rare classic) the M8 GC doesn't seem very special looking from certain angles.
I disagree. Although the 6-Series was a truly timeless design, the new 8GC is in another league. Hard to find an ugly angle anywhere.
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I disagree. Although the 6-Series was a truly timeless design, the new 8GC is in another league. Hard to find an ugly angle anywhere.
Im not convinced, yet, maybe it will grow on me....
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      01-12-2020, 06:14 PM   #4
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I disagree. Although the 6-Series was a truly timeless design, the new 8GC is in another league. Hard to find an ugly angle anywhere.
Im not convinced, yet, maybe it will grow on me....
Agree.
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I disagree. Although the 6-Series was a truly timeless design, the new 8GC is in another league. Hard to find an ugly angle anywhere, except the rear, the fake air vents, the Hofmeister Kink (or whatever it is now), the Zicker Line (or lack thereof), the interior.
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I do like the M8’s. Saw one today at Festivals of Speed in Florida. Interior is much better than the M6 for sure.
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I do like the M8ís. Saw one today at Festivals of Speed in Florida. Interior is much better than the M6 for sure.
I guess it depends on what your definition of "better" is. Better materials? Maybe, but that's about it. The waterfall interior of the 6 is unique, modern, yet timeless. The 8's interior design theme is the same as the 3, only with nicer materials. Design is square and dull as hell.
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I guess it depends on what your definition of "better" is. Better materials? Maybe, but that's about it. The waterfall interior of the 6 is unique, modern, yet timeless. The 8's interior design theme is the same as the 3, only with nicer materials. Design is square and dull as hell.
That's what I thought too.
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The 8 is not growing on me at all, especially when everyone on social media is calling it a glorified Mustang and it really does look like one .The M6 has a timeless look we are all just used to it but the average person doesnt have a clue what year these cars are,Someone pulled up to me the other day and asked me what year my car was I told him 2015,he was like wow it looks brand new and this is to a car thats been around 6 years and dont make anymore
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The 8 is not growing on me at all, especially when everyone on social media is calling it a glorified Mustang and it really does look like one .The M6 has a timeless look we are all just used to it but the average person doesnt have a clue what year these cars are,Someone pulled up to me the other day and asked me what year my car was I told him 2015,he was like wow it looks brand new and this is to a car thats been around 6 years and dont make anymore

I get compliments all the time. I have a few 650s and one is a 2012 650 6-spd. That's technically an 8 year old car!! Of course I keep it in showroom condition and have made tasteful cosmetic upgrades. People actually get nervous asking me what it is like. I think they assume it is a very expensive car and I must be really rich or something. This is despite the fact that I'm in one of the nicest areas in the Chicago suburbs.

The problem with the 8 is that it looks like another newer BMW and that's it. Or maybe it looks like a Mustang that that's horrible.
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I get compliments all the time. I have a few 650s and one is a 2012 650 6-spd. That's technically an 8 year old car!! Of course I keep it in showroom condition and have made tasteful cosmetic upgrades. People actually get nervous asking me what it is like. I think they assume it is a very expensive car and I must be really rich or something. This is despite the fact that I'm in one of the nicest areas in the Chicago suburbs.

The problem with the 8 is that it looks like another newer BMW and that's it. Or maybe it looks like a Mustang that that's horrible.
The F6 series always had the sporty rich look to it thats what I always loved about it, its timelesss,look at the E90/E92 M3 people are still going crazy for them.The only thing I like better on the 8 series is the interior but then again just marginally ,sometimes I feel the new Beemer and Benz interiors feel like a cheap strip club with all those lights
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      01-13-2020, 05:07 PM   #12
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The 8 is not growing on me at all, especially when everyone on social media is calling it a glorified Mustang and it really does look like one .The M6 has a timeless look we are all just used to it but the average person doesnt have a clue what year these cars are,Someone pulled up to me the other day and asked me what year my car was I told him 2015,he was like wow it looks brand new and this is to a car thats been around 6 years and dont make anymore
itís so true and their super rarity/scarcity puts them in a very desirable timeless pecking order but Iím biased
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      01-14-2020, 11:31 AM   #13
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I too am not a fan of the M8 GC, though I must admit the coupe is growing on me very quickly in all variants.

I suspect most will change their minds when seeing the GC in the flesh.

On another note the driving experience will be on another level I am sure.

I would suggest holding your breath
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      01-16-2020, 05:19 PM   #14
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I too am not a fan of the M8 GC, though I must admit the coupe is growing on me very quickly in all variants.

I suspect most will change their minds when seeing the GC in the flesh.

On another note the driving experience will be on another level I am sure.

I would suggest holding your breath
had my M6 GC in for its MOT today and while I was waiting I managed to sit in an 8 coupe (m850) and it did look rather special but out of curiosity I tried to sit in the back and was surprised my head hit the roof and I couldn’t pull the front seat to its upright position - it made me feel that a GC (6 or 8) is the one for me
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had my M6 GC in for its MOT today and while I was waiting I managed to sit in an 8 coupe (m850) and it did look rather special but out of curiosity I tried to sit in the back and was surprised my head hit the roof and I couldnít pull the front seat to its upright position - it made me feel that a GC (6 or 8) is the one for me
I'm about 5'9" or so and I can comfortably sit behind myself on the passenger side just fine but not quite comfortably on the driver side as the pedals are a bit closer than the carpet of course.

As such I view the F13 as a 3 seater and for that it is comfortable. I couldn't fit behind myself at all in the F92 due to the 1" reduction in legroom and 2" reduction in headroom so I view the F92 as a 2 seater. If so then I'll take a 911 thanks!

I'm leaning to F93 if I get an M8, but I'm still sceptical about the gearbox plus the other comments I've made - copying and pasting my own words here from another thread

I lose my 80 litre fuel tank and go down to 68 litres.
The aforementioned issue with losing 1" leg room and 2" headroom in the coupe.
I lose the M-DCT and get an 8 speed ZF
I get a small increase in power but that will be offset by drivetrain losses
The M6 is already a porker at 1925kg, now I'm going to 1960kg in the Coupe with worse weight distribution (I'm guessing roughly 54-55% at the front in the M8, the M6 is 51.5%)
Because I can't fit 3 people comfortably or 4 people in a pinch I might be considering the M8 GC, but that is 2055kg and 5098mm long vs 1925kg and 4898mm long. And while there MUST be more room in the M8 GC I still only get a 68 litre tank!
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I'm about 5'9" or so and I can comfortably sit behind myself on the passenger side just fine but not quite comfortably on the driver side as the pedals are a bit closer than the carpet of course.

As such I view the F13 as a 3 seater and for that it is comfortable. I couldn't fit behind myself at all in the F92 due to the 1" reduction in legroom and 2" reduction in headroom so I view the F92 as a 2 seater. If so then I'll take a 911 thanks!

I'm leaning to F93 if I get an M8, but I'm still sceptical about the gearbox plus the other comments I've made - copying and pasting my own words here from another thread

I lose my 80 litre fuel tank and go down to 68 litres.
The aforementioned issue with losing 1" leg room and 2" headroom in the coupe.
I lose the M-DCT and get an 8 speed ZF
I get a small increase in power but that will be offset by drivetrain losses
The M6 is already a porker at 1925kg, now I'm going to 1960kg in the Coupe with worse weight distribution (I'm guessing roughly 54-55% at the front in the M8, the M6 is 51.5%)
Because I can't fit 3 people comfortably or 4 people in a pinch I might be considering the M8 GC, but that is 2055kg and 5098mm long vs 1925kg and 4898mm long. And while there MUST be more room in the M8 GC I still only get a 68 litre tank!
itís probably a good way to regard it as a 2 or 3 seater - I donít really need the rear seats as my kids are older and my wife has a sensible 4 seater. If I do eventually go for an 8 when the prices plummet I would probably still go for the M GC as i live part of the time in Madrid and its nice to drive from the uk in a spacious GT with rear passengers (instead of my wifeís car). I do miss a true coupe but maybe if Iím lucky I can go for a 911 and keep my old M6.
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The more I read about the Ms becoming more diluted with other bmw models the more I am considering keeping this longer and longer. Feels like the f12 / f10 could be the last BMW sedan with an M on it that REALLY means M. All these different editions are confusing and taking away from the exclusivity, i dont like it.
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The more I read about the Ms becoming more diluted with other bmw models the more I am considering keeping this longer and longer. Feels like the f12 / f10 could be the last BMW sedan with an M on it that REALLY means M. All these different editions are confusing and taking away from the exclusivity, i dont like it.
I agree with this, I've even seen some test reports that recommend the M850 over the M8, saying the M8 just doesn't offer enough to justify the price difference.
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I think that point is valid as the power levels are the same and the drivetrains are the same too. The only difference is suspension tuning and a little bit more power
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Technically now both cars are "M" cars according to BMW and the rest of the world. Thankfully there is no M650i.

Also the 8 series as a whole right now is just a massive gimmick. the cars don't sell well, its all about SUPER SUV and SAVs. Where is the X7M! It will have the same performance as the M8 but seat 7 people too!. probably even have a X7M convertible in the future too!
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X7M needs the N74 engine, as does the M8. Now that would be fun Iím sure Garching could get one to 750hp in a week.
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