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Well, it looks like what one might've expected based on all the leaks. It's an attractive design, if somewhat more derivative of the outgoing model than new C Class iterations often are.
It's unfortunate that they don't seem to be sharing any details on the C43 nor "C63e" at this time. I was hoping to see C43 pictures and at least get some mention of the latter if only to get official confirmation on what they are calling it. These two are by far the most interesting as far as drivetrain because of the downsizing. All of the other models being introduced today were also equipped with a four cylinder in their equivalent W205 form, so there's no big shake-up there. Though the new 261hp I4 diesel is somewhat interesting. They are basically matching the 330d in power (and getting only slightly less torque) with two fewer cylinders. |
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Boring Mercedes on the outside and boring Tesla on the inside. Someone needs to tell Mercedes that only Tesla fanboys like the giant tablet interior. They are even doubling down with all haptic controls on the steering wheel leaving the driver no tactile controls. That entire dashboard looks cheap in a car of this price point. I generally am okay with most modern MB exterior designs but the droopy rear ends have never looked great to me.
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Seems to take more after the CLA in the front fascia department. At least it's not offensive I guess.
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I like it better in all ways vs the current. VERY conservative but clean design inside and out. I too was REALLY hoping to hear what's in store for the C46/63.
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Even with its controversial design MB has already had success with the W223 S-Class and its tablet style interior with 40k orders at launch (more than the beloved W222 at launch). Every automaker from Volvo to Subaru, Ford, Ram, Porsche, Audi, VW, and even BMW is following their lead and removing buttons and switchgear in favor of "touch-capacitive" buttons and large screens for "uncluttered" interiors. As much as we hate it, luxury is now more synonymous with screens and tech than it is leather, wood and metal.
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It's like the big grilles. All automakers are going in that direction and as you can see from this forum there's a lot of detest for it. If you accept that automakers are going this direction because people love this interior then you also have to accept that people love big grilles. Last edited by heavyD^2; 02-23-2021 at 09:19 AM.. |
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This phenomena isn't limited to automotive world, nor is it even limited to aesthetics. It's just that most people are looking for something that meets their needs and don't care to analyze deeply. Whether it's a $5 bottle of wine that gets the job done, the model of washer/dryer they in the Best Buy circular, the condo advertised at $169,990 on the big billboard, whatever. Consumers are just that - consumers. They consume things and move on with life. |
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One interesting model from the previous generation that I assume they will be continuing on is the plug-in Diesel hybrids. Of course being the US and dieselgate we'll never see these but the combination of diesel and a PHEV is very interesting as that isn't something I've seen on many other Euro cars (or maybe I'm not paying attention enough ). Apparently it gets 35 miles electric (I'm assuming this is WLTP) while still retaining the torque and efficiency if a diesel engine when not using electric. Pretty neat.
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But to the original suggestion that consumers don't want this type of interface, I tend to agree with stein_325i that things are moving this way because, like big grills, people have already accepted that this is the way forward. And since people love their touch screen phones and devices, most probably see this as a move for the better even though it's arguably inferior from a safety perspective. |
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Exterior styling is very clean and classically Mercedes in a way. The outgoing generation has too many quirky styling bits that have been cleaned up.
I'm really not a fan of the ugly screen but that's what wows consumers. Rest of the interior is a home run design-wise. Quality will probably be sub-par in typical Mercedes fashion.
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I honestly do not like the new tail-lights... The angular triangle doesn't seem fancy to me, I hated it on the new S and E |
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Large screens, however, is design following function. Besides the practically of a larger navigation, more tech are being incorporated requiring more buttons/switches but instead they put it on the screen and, if you do that, then why not also put existing buttons on the screen, and so on. So to handle all that, you either have a large screen like the new S & C Class, or many smaller screens like the RS7. If you don't do that then you end up with way too many buttons like some Porsche used to have but now they are going towards larger screens too to rid the buttons. So one is an old and soon to be dated design trend and the other is not necessarily a trend but more of a design necessity. |
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This may or may not foretell a similar future for BMW. With Mercedes reducing their sedan based two-door fleet, it opens opportunity for BMW. On the other hand, it is still a declining segment. At a minimum, it seems increasingly unlikely that the two door 8 Series models will survive past the current generation. If we assume that will happen for the sake of argument, the bigger question becomes, after the G42 2er and G22/G23 4er finish out toward the end of the decade, does BMW try to combine those into a single model somehow? If this were to happen, it would mean the end of either the M2 or M4 so it would obviously have big implications for enthusiasts. |
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I could see BMW following suit and thinning out the lineup. The 8er is pretty much already on its way out, along with the Z4, leaving the 2er and 4er. The 2er is one foot in the grave with the cab being dead. Sad times ahead for lovers of 2-doors.
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