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      01-12-2021, 12:09 PM   #1079
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Nothing like having my yard checked by a professional (close friend of the family) to see about weed treatment and soil nutrients, to have them let you know that the yard is 80-90% weeds (thanks to no upkeep for 20 years by previous 3 owners). He told us he could start, but it would take 2-3 years to get going, so we'd have a brown yard during that time.
Other fun fact is that we have no working irrigation for at least 20 years (thanks again previous owners). My wife and I are near the beach and plan to rent out the house in a couple years to by a bigger home, for a hopefully growing family.

We're trying to decide if it's worth my brother-in-laws and I ripping out everything, digging/installing new irrigation, and then re-sodding the entire yard. It would end up costing almost the same as having treatments for 2-3 yrs. To make it work, we'd have to re-do the irrigation either way.
Re-sodding is better than trying to rehab 80-90% weeds. Iím not sure thatís even possible. But then it will still need to be maintained to avoid turning back into the same thing. So many people in my neighborhood just gave up and live with weed lawns.
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Re-sodding is better than trying to rehab 80-90% weeds. Iím not sure thatís even possible. But then it will still need to be maintained to avoid turning back into the same thing. So many people in my neighborhood just gave up and live with weed lawns.
Sadly that's our debate now. If we're eventually just going to rent it, is it even worth that investment.

I told my wife, if we were to do it, I'm going to tear up the yard, re-do the irrigation (base of the old system is on the side of the house still), and re-sod. That seems to be the only proper way to address it.
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Sadly that's our debate now. If we're eventually just going to rent it, is it even worth that investment.

I told my wife, if we were to do it, I'm going to tear up the yard, re-do the irrigation (base of the old system is on the side of the house still), and re-sod. That seems to be the only proper way to address it.
You are correct, it is. And I would spray Round Up everywhere before tearing up the yard and make sure everything is dead first. (I replaced my lawn 5+ years ago.)

Unfortunately it doesnít stop there as it will require ongoing maintenance. My neighbor replaced their lawn 2-3 years ago but donít do anything to maintain it (fertilizer / weed control / pest control). They threw away their money because it is now as bad as it was before they did it.

I spend a lot of time and money on my lawn (which is still far from perfect). To be honest if we were renting out our house instead of living in it, I might be inclined to be like everyone else and let it go.
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Sadly that's our debate now. If we're eventually just going to rent it, is it even worth that investment.

I told my wife, if we were to do it, I'm going to tear up the yard, re-do the irrigation (base of the old system is on the side of the house still), and re-sod. That seems to be the only proper way to address it.
You are correct, it is. And I would spray Round Up everywhere before tearing up the yard and make sure everything is dead first. (I replaced my lawn 5+ years ago.)

Unfortunately it doesn't stop there as it will require ongoing maintenance. My neighbor replaced their lawn 2-3 years ago but don't do anything to maintain it (fertilizer / weed control / pest control). They threw away their money because it is now as bad as it was before they did it.

I spend a lot of time and money on my lawn (which is still far from perfect). To be honest if we were renting out our house instead of living in it, I might be inclined to be like everyone else and let it go.
Would the Round Up deal with weed seeds in the ground? There's got to be a ton in the ground and they can stick around for years before germinating. Seems like spring and fall pre-M applications will be needed for the next few years.

Not knowing how how big their yard is, but maybe seeding would be more cost effective than sodding. Tenacity is be used as a pre-M and can be applied at time of seeding. It is the only pre-M that I am aware if that will still allow for grass seeds to germinate. Grass seed 'usually' grows in stronger than sod, too.
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Would the Round Up deal with weed seeds in the ground? There's got to be a ton in the ground and they can stick around for years before germinating. Seems like spring and fall pre-M applications will be needed for the next few years.

Not knowing how how big their yard is, but maybe seeding would be more cost effective than sodding. Tenacity is be used as a pre-M and can be applied at time of seeding. It is the only pre-M that I am aware if that will still allow for grass seeds to germinate. Grass seed 'usually' grows in stronger than sod, too.
Here in South Florida, St. Augustine is the predominant lawn because it tolerates salt, heat and drought pretty well and some varieties also tolerate shade. But you can't seed St. Augustine. Sod is the only option, which sucks.

As far as weed seeds, if you are going to re-sod, at a minimum you need to kill what you can see. When we re-sodded, I sprayed the entire lawn, waited 2 weeks and then spot sprayed again. There were still some spots with weeds when we had the old sod pulled up but there will always be some from the wind, lawn guy, etc. The new sod smothers them pretty well and the best way to control weeds is with a health lawn (unless of course the new sod is full of weeds). But, yes, ongoing pre-emergent, weed control, fertilizer, pest control, etc. will be required. It is a year-round process here and there is always something else to do next.
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Would the Round Up deal with weed seeds in the ground? There's got to be a ton in the ground and they can stick around for years before germinating. Seems like spring and fall pre-M applications will be needed for the next few years.

Not knowing how how big their yard is, but maybe seeding would be more cost effective than sodding. Tenacity is be used as a pre-M and can be applied at time of seeding. It is the only pre-M that I am aware if that will still allow for grass seeds to germinate. Grass seed 'usually' grows in stronger than sod, too.
Here in South Florida, St. Augustine is the predominant lawn because it tolerates salt, heat and drought pretty well and some varieties also tolerate shade. But you can't seed St. Augustine. Sod is the only option, which sucks.

As far as weed seeds, if you are going to re-sod, at a minimum you need to kill what you can see. When we re-sodded, I sprayed the entire lawn, waited 2 weeks and then spot sprayed again. There were still some spots with weeds when we had the old sod pulled up but there will always be some from the wind, lawn guy, etc. The new sod smothers them pretty well and the best way to control weeds is with a health lawn (unless of course the new sod is full of weeds). But, yes, ongoing pre-emergent, weed control, fertilizer, pest control, etc. will be required. It is a year-round process here and there is always something else to do next.
Ah, didnt realize they were in FL.

Yeah, weeds are a around the year battle. The little bastards.
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Sadly that's our debate now. If we're eventually just going to rent it, is it even worth that investment.

I told my wife, if we were to do it, I'm going to tear up the yard, re-do the irrigation (base of the old system is on the side of the house still), and re-sod. That seems to be the only proper way to address it.
Rent it? Don't do anything. Renters won't take care of it.
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Rent it? Don't do anything. Renters won't take care of it.
Hahaha, hence why we're leaning towards living that "weed life" (for the lawn).

This is still our primary home for the next couple of years, so it's I've just got to tell myself that it's not worth the overall investment.
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Just plant clover. Bright green, blocks out al invasive weeds, looks great, tolerates a lack of and too much water easily and doesn't cost a god damn penny.
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Just plant clover. Bright green, blocks out al invasive weeds, looks great, tolerates a lack of and too much water easily and doesn't cost a god damn penny.
Thatís a weed here. He doesnít need to plant it.
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That's my point. Seriously, becoming a trend. I like outdoors work but the money and time trying to maintain a good lawn is absolutely preposterous. Much harder here maybe as all pesticides are banned.
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That's my point. Seriously, becoming a trend. I like outdoors work but the money and time trying to maintain a good lawn is absolutely preposterous. Much harder here maybe as all pesticides are banned.
A good lawn is not that expensive to maintain. A perfect lawn is.
If you drop pre-emergent early spring and some bi-weekly nitrogen in the fall your lawn will look better than 95% of lawns out there.
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Right, i had about 4000 sq feet, to firstly see and fertalise and water that amount of lawn was just eye watering, again, weed killer is banned here and the dandylions just run RAMPANT if your lawn is not SUPER SUPER SUPER thick, any gap and they take root so fast it is scary. Clover blocks them out and needs about 1/100th the time and money to look after.
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I'm refreshing our fireplace. Got the sheetrock back on and now I'm contemplating if I should go further and replace/lower the mantel and install tv above the fireplace.

What's yours guys thoughts? Do TVs belong above the mantel or keep the fireplace as its own focal point? Our fireplace is in our great room, not the formal living room.
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I'd say if the TV works elsewhere I would leave it elsewhere. I think fireplaces look better without a TV above them and the TVs are too high when installed over a fireplace most of the time. But some rooms do not provide a better alternative location where the TV can be seen better so it really depends on the room.
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I would gut and replace with newer slim fireplace and place tv above it. Old fireplaces tend to hog where a tv should go imho, and the TV ends up being way too high.
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I'm refreshing our fireplace. Got the sheetrock back on and now I'm contemplating if I should go further and replace/lower the mantel and install tv above the fireplace.

What's yours guys thoughts? Do TVs belong above the mantel or keep the fireplace as its own focal point? Our fireplace is in our great room, not the formal living room.
looks pretty dope! i like it! i would leave it as a fireplace as this is a focal point in the room. don't put the TV there. here's what mine looked like when we first moved in and i ended up sealing everything up and continued the moulding work to the ceiling to make the whole thing a focal point than just the mantel and below




now i'm thinking about replacing the tile with something different?
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looks pretty dope! i like it! i would leave it as a fireplace as this is a focal point in the room. don't put the TV there. here's what mine looked like when we first moved in and i ended up sealing everything up and continued the moulding work to the ceiling to make the whole thing a focal point than just the mantel and below




now i'm thinking about replacing the tile with something different?
Man, that better be a false door with all the jewels hidden!
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I'm refreshing our fireplace. Got the sheetrock back on and now I'm contemplating if I should go further and replace/lower the mantel and install tv above the fireplace.

What's yours guys thoughts? Do TVs belong above the mantel or keep the fireplace as its own focal point? Our fireplace is in our great room, not the formal living room.
Personally, I'm not a fan of TV's above fire places when other options exist but it depends on the room layout and you use the room. Some people have no choice.

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looks pretty dope! i like it! i would leave it as a fireplace as this is a focal point in the room. don't put the TV there. here's what mine looked like when we first moved in and i ended up sealing everything up and continued the moulding work to the ceiling to make the whole thing a focal point than just the mantel and below
Did you run the plywood under the entirety of the trimmed area? Or just the the interior? Slicks nice!

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Just became a first time HO and this was my first purchase. Anyone else into things like this - I just think it looks neat.
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