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You and I are both on the same page With me already having a reference of what DINAN stage 1 feels like on this engine (former ride), I can tell you with out a doubt that the F12/F13 6 Series will be a monster - especially with Stage 2 - it should pick up at least .05 tenths easy. Although, I think these cars are already putting out a bit more than the quoted 400hp/450 ft-lbs. I know gearing helps too, but there is something else going on here, as these cars are typically 4500+ lbs
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12-09-2011, 08:55 AM | #6 |
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All C&D 0-60 times are done with a drag strip style roll out where the car moves a food or so before it crosses the timing light. For most performance cars with two wheel drive this knocks three tenths of a second off the time. C&D also temperature corrects its results.
It might be OK to use the roll out for quarter mile times as that is how a drag race is done, but for 0-60 it is a distortion. Rarely does any magazine show a better 0-60 time than C&D, and there have been many examples over the years where their results were simply not obtainable.
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12-09-2011, 10:16 AM | #7 |
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So I have a question for people that drive/ has driven a new 5/6 series. Is the steering really that much worse? Compared to the E90 how much less feed back would you say there is. 25%? I know that is subjective and hard o put a value on, but I'm curious how bad the steering really is.
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12-09-2011, 12:40 PM | #10 |
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Keep in mind that this F12/13s competition is NOT the MB E550 coupe or the Audi S5, (BMWs comp. for these two will be the upcoming 4 series) but the MB CL550 and probably the upcoming Bentley CGT v8 as well. Both of which cost more, weigh more and are slightly bigger. BMW moved the 6 series up in class with the introduction of the F12/13.
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That looks like a very strange power curve to me. I guess it makes it more efficient to have the power delivered in the low end of the rev range though.
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Such a beautiful car. A future legend.
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Like I previously stated the New 4 series and its variants will compete with the A5/S5/RS5 as well as the E coupes. Price, Size and Performance. Although the F12/13 is midway between the E class coupe and the CL550 those who are shopping a CL550 but want something from Bavaria won't be considering the current 3 series or future 4 series. |
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After driving both the CL550 and 650i Coupe I found the the 650 to be more in line with what I want from a car and my driving style. Don't get me wrong, I've always liked the CL and still do but...... |
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12-09-2011, 05:31 PM | #18 | |
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This car is definitely a sleeper. Last edited by tom @ eas; 12-09-2011 at 05:37 PM.. |
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I don't agree at all. I love the steering.
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