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      06-22-2021, 10:35 AM   #67
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The same response the Urus got and it sells like crazy.
Lets be honest. The Urus isn't selling because people think its gorgeous, its selling because its an SUV with a Lamborghini badge.
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The same response the Urus got and it sells like crazy.
Urus has a style whether good or bad unlike BMW designs. A design can be good or bad but should not look like mismatched lego pieces duct taped together. It is not certain whether these are a fish or a bird. The front is a bird, the tail is a fish, the middle is a reptile. Urus is all fish or chicken. I would not hire BMW design team to design napkins for a casual picnic.
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      06-22-2021, 11:33 AM   #71
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Lets be honest. The Urus isn't selling because people thing its gorgeous, its selling because its an SUV with a Lamborghini badge.
The Lamborghini sells because it gets attention and people like attention. Same with this BMW XM. It's meant to do the same.
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      06-22-2021, 01:19 PM   #72
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Hi guys,

here is my first rear render of the upcoming 2022 X8 / XM. The car features a 4.4L V8 with additional eletric assistance. We are talking about over 800 hp.

What do you think about the design?

More on: https://www.instagram.com/bmw43__/
I like the rear a LOT! It takes cues from the X5 and X7. The front is a bit of a mess though.
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Not a fan of the headlights or taillight cut-outs. Maybe it will look better in person as I find a lot of today's new vehicles do not photograph well.
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Keep in mind this targets the Urus and upcoming Ferrari SUV so it needs to be a bit out there as well.
Uhh…since when is a BMW considered in the same league as a Ferrari or Lamborghini?

It'll compete with these cars on paper, but this won't carry the same level of badge snobbery.

The Bentley Bentayga is a good example. It's a pretty ugly car but bc of its "premium" badge, competes at a very upmarket level. But even the Bentayga looks better than this monstrosity.

BMW is competing w/ Lexus, Audi and MB. No Ferrari or Lamborghini buyer is going to move away from those brands to a BMW.
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Uhh…since when is a BMW considered in the same league as a Ferrari or Lamborghini?

It'll compete with these cars on paper, but this won't carry the same level of badge snobbery.

The Bentley Bentayga is a good example. It's a pretty ugly car but bc of its "premium" badge, competes at a very upmarket level. But even the Bentayga looks better than this monstrosity.

BMW is competing w/ Lexus, Audi and MB. No Ferrari or Lamborghini buyer is going to move away from those brands to a BMW.
I'm very glad to see you have conducted extensive market research on this and updated us all on your findings. Thank you.

When given the choice of a flashy, fast, flagship, attention grabbing SUV like the XM for $100K less than a Urus, you'd be surprised.

No one ever thought a Porsche would be cross-shopped with a BMW and it happens all the time now, especially in the SUV segment.
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I'm very glad to see you have conducted extensive market research on this and updated us all on your findings. Thank you.

When given the choice of a flashy, fast, flagship, attention grabbing SUV like the XM for $100K less than a Urus, you'd be surprised.

No one ever thought a Porsche would be cross-shopped with a BMW and it happens all the time now, especially in the SUV segment.
Lol it's an opinion guy. Should I write IMO on every post so you don't get confused?

Lmk when you find someone cross shopping a modern Ferrari and a modern BMW. If you actually believe this, you must've gotten a deep lobotomy at your last BMW dealership visit.
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Lol it's an opinion guy. Should I write IMO on every post so you don't get confused?

Lmk when you find someone cross shopping a modern Ferrari and a modern BMW. If you actually believe this, you must've gotten a deep lobotomy at your last BMW dealership visit.
The Urus is frequently cross-shopped with the G-Wagon E63 AMG because MB has positioned this SUV as their flag ship and everyone knows is a nearly $200K car that rich people drive.

Same will happen with the XM. Once the market knows it's a $200K flag ship SUV, they'll be cross-shopped.
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The Urus is frequently cross-shopped with the G-Wagon E63 AMG because MB has positioned this SUV as their flag ship and everyone knows is a nearly $200K car that rich people drive.

Same will happen with the XM. Once the market knows it's a $200K flag ship SUV, they'll be cross-shopped.
Do you really think this will go for $200k? I was thinking it would start at $99k, maybe up to $160k for the full bore M. I guess we will find out, I just cannot see this as being $60k better than the XB7.
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Yikes, that is hideous times 100.
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The Lamborghini sells because it gets attention and people like attention. Same with this BMW XM. It's meant to do the same.
Totally agree with the attention, disagree with the design because it is confusing. They want to sell this to "gen Z" who cannot afford these.
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Do you really think this will go for $200k? I was thinking it would start at $99k, maybe up to $160k for the full bore M. I guess we will find out, I just cannot see this as being $60k better than the XB7.
No, not actually $200K but I'm sure this will be a $140-$160K vehicle with normal options.
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No, not actually $200K but I'm sure this will be a $140-$160K vehicle with normal options.
The V8 model will start in that vicinity, no doubt. The I6 model will probably start at around $100k.
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The back looks hideous…
Front is a bit better…
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Very sleek. 800hp sleeper imo.
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I agree trying to be Chris Bangle version 2, but they simply failing miserably.

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"A" for effort to OP. This looks pretty close to the camo pics floating around the interwebs this week.

Must give a "F" for an EPIC fail to BMW design. It just looks like they're trying too hard to be different.
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I'm very glad to see you have conducted extensive market research on this and updated us all on your findings. Thank you.

When given the choice of a flashy, fast, flagship, attention grabbing SUV like the XM for $100K less than a Urus, you'd be surprised.

No one ever thought a Porsche would be cross-shopped with a BMW and it happens all the time now, especially in the SUV segment.
Lol it's an opinion guy. Should I write IMO on every post so you don't get confused?

Lmk when you find someone cross shopping a modern Ferrari and a modern BMW. If you actually believe this, you must've gotten a deep lobotomy at your last BMW dealership visit.
I can settle this. I want a 5 or 7 as daily driver AND an F12 Berlinetta as a weekend toy.

Just need to work on the having 300k to blow on a weekend toy bit

In all seriousness though, they serve different purposes. No one buys a "real" Ferrari (disqualifying shit like the california from "real") as a daily drive. It would suck as one.

So you're right, noones wondering to themselves, should i get this supercar or a that practical one. But the same person who is looking at one could easily fancy a bimmer as a daily drive. Its a great choice… we're all here for a reason aye?

Even given unlimited funds, I still would personally still prefer bimmers over say a gaudy Rolls or Bentley, for normal day to day driving. I think they are classier, less noisy, and in all ways that matter just as nice.
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did they get design cues from Hyundai?
There's definately a thing going on between Hyundai - BMW.

I don't know if it's somehow related to the former BMW M president joining hyundai to kick start their 'N' devision.

Also:

https://www.auto123.com/en/news/poss...and-bmw/12157/

https://www.drive.com.au/news/bmw-an...ership-report/


These articles are years old, are we finally seeing the result?
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