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Unfortunately for me, it has been raining (medium to hard) almost all day this weekend so far. I haven't been able to do anything aside from dropping my mow height to 2.5" on Friday night. Wanted to get down to 2" then run the thatcher in some areas, core aerate, thrown down fert and a cocktail of fungicide & humic acid, and overseed but not happening this weekend and I doubt I'll have time to do anything until next weekend. My fall window is closing. I may just core aerate, fert/cocktail, and overseed the lawn at this point. Maybe even only cover some of the backyard instead of all of it.
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      09-22-2019, 11:21 PM   #684
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Yep I had plans to do a lot this weekend but it was pretty windy and threatening to rain all day yesterday, with more of the same this morning. Too windy to use a spreader or sprayer. Well, at least I got to fertilize the palm trees, tabebuiaa, gardenia, Italian cypress and juniper yesterday.

Has anyone used Yard Mastery .172% Dithiopyr as a pre-emergent? LCN recommends fall application here to suppress crab grass and some other weeds that sprout up in fall / winter. I bought a 50 lb. bag from his site to try. Should provide with me 2 applications.
I never understood why put down pre emergent during the Fall to prevent weeds in the Springtime but yet we still put down pre emergent in the Springtime? for the last 2 seasons I have not noticed any difference with not putting down pre emergent in the Fall. at least for cool season lawns. Plus with Falltime most grasses are already getting prepared to go dormant so if anything the best thing to do that I notice that works for me is just to put down your last application of fertilizer
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      09-23-2019, 05:47 AM   #685
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I never understood why put down pre emergent during the Fall to prevent weeds in the Springtime but yet we still put down pre emergent in the Springtime? for the last 2 seasons I have not noticed any difference with not putting down pre emergent in the Fall. at least for cool season lawns. Plus with Falltime most grasses are already getting prepared to go dormant so if anything the best thing to do that I notice that works for me is just to put down your last application of fertilizer
Actually here is South Florida, we get weeds all year and they seem to appear en masse in late fall. I am going to try following Allyn’s suggestions this year and see how it works. (He actually suggests 2 fall applications here.)
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      09-23-2019, 08:03 AM   #686
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Actually here is South Florida, we get weeds all year and they seem to appear en masse in late fall. I am going to try following Allyn’s suggestions this year and see how it works. (He actually suggests 2 fall applications here.)
That makes sense since you warm season guys don't see winters
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That makes sense since you warm season guys don't see winters
Yep, if I understand it correctly, some weeds start to appear once the soil temp decreases below 70 degrees, which is probably around this time next month or so (but difficult to predict).
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That makes sense since you warm season guys don't see winters
Yo, ls, is it too late to put down new seed in our zone?

I'm going to do it this weekend and hope for the best, regardless.
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      09-23-2019, 02:10 PM   #689
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Yo, ls, is it too late to put down new seed in our zone?

I'm going to do it this weekend and hope for the best, regardless.
Windows closing! My next door neighbor just did his today. I would say this is almost the last week to get any overseeding done before it's too late.
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Awesome project there! Looks like you're sitting on a pretty big lot
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Awesome project there! Looks like you're sitting on a pretty big lot
About 5 acres...neighbors have 10 and 15 respectively.
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About 5 acres...neighbors have 10 and 15 respectively.
Awesome! I can barely handle my .50 acre lol! I know what it cost just to maintain a .50 acre in regards to seeding, fertilizer, pre-post emergent and watering but I can't imagine what it would cost for the size you have or people with bigger lots. Can I ask you do you spend the money on maintaining that size of a lot and how much do you spend? Curious just because the wife wants a bigger lot and I'm already telling her how much it cost just with a .50 acre lot. Thanks!
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About 5 acres...neighbors have 10 and 15 respectively.
Awesome! I can barely handle my .50 acre lol! I know what it cost just to maintain a .50 acre in regards to seeding, fertilizer, pre-post emergent and watering but I can't imagine what it would cost for the size you have or people with bigger lots. Can I ask you do you spend the money on maintaining that size of a lot and how much do you spend? Curious just because the wife wants a bigger lot and I'm already telling her how much it cost just with a .50 acre lot. Thanks!
We have goats and donkeys to help - LARGE zero turn for the rest. Lol. It's not a manicured yard by any means.
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what area are you in boss?
Chicago 'burbs. Looks like we're going to get some evergreens planted in the back for privacy screening AND it is supposed to rain again this weekend. I think I'm just going to put down my prodiamine, humic, and a fert. I'll aerate the back but only spot seed in front. At least I am well stocked on grass seed for next year.

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I never understood why put down pre emergent during the Fall to prevent weeds in the Springtime but yet we still put down pre emergent in the Springtime? for the last 2 seasons I have not noticed any difference with not putting down pre emergent in the Fall. at least for cool season lawns. Plus with Falltime most grasses are already getting prepared to go dormant so if anything the best thing to do that I notice that works for me is just to put down your last application of fertilizer
I had a TON of weeds popping up recently. Dandelion, oxalis, spurge, clover. Frickin' crazy. I spot sprayed the front pretty good but left the back since some of them are annuals. The dandelion is perennial but I'll scorch them next spring.
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I'm curious how broad the blades are.
so far as you can see the blades are still not as thick as you can see them within the thicker blades of grass since it's only been a few weeks since germination. according to Pete they will thicken but not so much since it is fall and less sunlight. hopefully next Spring is when i'll see how these will look


just put down my last fertilizer for Fall. the grass looks really nice, thick and lush. I have a neighborhood contractor who will be performing winterization so the last time I can use the sprinklers is Oct 17th. after that I will leave it up to mother nature




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I learned from the lawn gurus of YouTube. for dethatching usually it's at the beginning of Spring to get all the dead grass up. and than in the fall time just before you reseed if you plan on reseeding. I dethatched because I had lawn fungus and a lot of the dead grass was just sitting here. so the dethatcher helped pull most of it out.

if you're pulling up a patch of grass and it's actually coming up it could be quite a few things. one it could be grubs are eating your roots. is the grass brown? also, it could be the roots are very shallow and not deep enough to hold. I use RGS to stimulate root growth. since Fall is upon us I would think about doing a dethatch, aerate and an overseeding since you're saying your lawn looks a bit thin. i'm looking to do this at the beginning of September.

This year is pretty much done if you ask me as far as trying to develop a deeper root system. I would suggest doing this next year. look into the NEXT products particularly RGS and HUMIC12. that's going to help amend your soil and promote Root development

Allyn the Lawn Care Nut has already put out a couple of videos on overseeding since it's coming up
My experience is pretty much the same. Youtube taught me well, but not without some minor troubles. Also I messed up my old lawnmower from ebay, it was cheap anyway, now I want something more efficient, maybe this. Also I'm making some renovation and that's why my backyard is currently looking like this, gonna test new seeds.
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My experience is pretty much the same. Youtube taught me well, but not without some minor troubles. Also I messed up my old lawnmower from ebay, it was cheap anyway, now I want something more efficient, maybe this. Also I'm making some renovation and that's why my backyard is currently looking like this, gonna test new seeds.
Sweet! what kind of seeds will you be using?
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What is winterization???

Things we don't do in FL. I did an all in one day treatment a few weeks ago. It's starting to work. Weeds are dying and grass is growing. I still have those spots were the grass is incredibly soft and carpet like. Densely bunched together.
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cut the lawn today. all the new seeds are doing well. blades are actually getting thicker. this variety really does make stripes pop!



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I finally got to overseeding this past weekend with a break in the rain. Hope its not too late into the fall as temps are already pretty low.
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I finally got to overseeding this past weekend with a break in the rain. Hope its not too late into the fall as temps are already pretty low.
oooooo I think as long as temperatures are over 55 degrees you might be fine but temperatures continue to drop.
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