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      02-11-2021, 09:23 AM   #1
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Thoughts on the Weistec Turbos?

So I’ve been hesitant to due any sort of major performance mods due to the fact that I live in Northeast Ohio and I’m having a hard time telling the difference between the roads here and the roads in a war-torn country, but I finally decided I want to build a beast (pandemic Boredomdom, if you will).

I’ve seen a lot of guys talking about Bootmod3 and other ECU tuning and such, but I haven’t really seen anybody talking about going all in doing a full turbo swap.

I’ve done a lot of research on the variety of tuners out there, but other than the Mercedes guys, Seems to be a lack of Bimmer guys going with Weistec. There seem to be the only ones that have a full complete turbo upgrade, and also their own ECU tune as well.

I have a GruppeM intake and want to combine the turbo upgrades with an exhaust system, simply because I know the Weistec upgrades come with their own downpipes, so might as well knock it out all at once. This is a project I’m willing to go all in on, with upgrading the clutch and everything.

Should I stay away from them and just go with the ECU flashes and other simple upgrades? What’s the reason you have or haven’t gone with Weistec?

The S63TU engine itself isn’t difficult to work on, just tedious. But I have nothing but time.

Again, just wondering what you guys think of their products and why y’all decided to do mods other than upgrades turbos.
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So Iíve been hesitant to due any sort of major performance mods due to the fact that I live in Northeast Ohio and Iím having a hard time telling the difference between the roads here and the roads in a war-torn country, but I finally decided I want to build a beast (pandemic Boredomdom, if you will).

Iíve seen a lot of guys talking about Bootmod3 and other ECU tuning and such, but I havenít really seen anybody talking about going all in doing a full turbo swap.

Iíve done a lot of research on the variety of tuners out there, but other than the Mercedes guys, Seems to be a lack of Bimmer guys going with Weistec. There seem to be the only ones that have a full complete turbo upgrade, and also their own ECU tune as well.

I have a GruppeM intake and want to combine the turbo upgrades with an exhaust system, simply because I know the Weistec upgrades come with their own downpipes, so might as well knock it out all at once. This is a project Iím willing to go all in on, with upgrading the clutch and everything.

Should I stay away from them and just go with the ECU flashes and other simple upgrades? Whatís the reason you have or havenít gone with Weistec?

The S63TU engine itself isnít difficult to work on, just tedious. But I have nothing but time.

Again, just wondering what you guys think of their products and why yíall decided to do mods other than upgrades turbos.
I dont have much to add, but i am of the same thinking
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So I’ve been hesitant to due any sort of major performance mods due to the fact that I live in Northeast Ohio and I’m having a hard time telling the difference between the roads here and the roads in a war-torn country, but I finally decided I want to build a beast (pandemic Boredomdom, if you will).

I’ve seen a lot of guys talking about Bootmod3 and other ECU tuning and such, but I haven’t really seen anybody talking about going all in doing a full turbo swap.

I’ve done a lot of research on the variety of tuners out there, but other than the Mercedes guys, Seems to be a lack of Bimmer guys going with Weistec. There seem to be the only ones that have a full complete turbo upgrade, and also their own ECU tune as well.

I have a GruppeM intake and want to combine the turbo upgrades with an exhaust system, simply because I know the Weistec upgrades come with their own downpipes, so might as well knock it out all at once. This is a project I’m willing to go all in on, with upgrading the clutch and everything.

Should I stay away from them and just go with the ECU flashes and other simple upgrades? What’s the reason you have or haven’t gone with Weistec?

The S63TU engine itself isn’t difficult to work on, just tedious. But I have nothing but time.

Again, just wondering what you guys think of their products and why y’all decided to do mods other than upgrades turbos.
I would highly recommend upgrading your turbos if your looking to be in the 750+ HP and torque range. I went with Pure Turbos and SSP clutches but I did look into Weistec and a few other smaller companies offering builds but they were expensive and had no reviews. I ended up purchasing a Titanium IPE exhaust along IPE titanium downpipes then DME Stage 2 with methanol, upgraded fuel pumps and a few other goodies. Haven't dynoed her since but I am very satisfied with the end result.
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DME Stage 2 with methanol
A bit off topic but what WMI kit are you running? Iím highly considering Snow Performances kit for this summer. Regardless of your kit, have you been happy with the results of running meth?
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I would highly recommend upgrading your turbos if your looking to be in the 750+ HP and torque range. I went with Pure Turbos and SSP clutches but I did look into Weistec and a few other smaller companies offering builds but they were expensive and had no reviews. I ended up purchasing a Titanium IPE exhaust along IPE titanium downpipes then DME Stage 2 with methanol, upgraded fuel pumps and a few other goodies. Haven't dynoed her since but I am very satisfied with the end result.
This isn't meant to be a "a-hole" comment, but after spending all of that money and quality upgrades, why wouldn't you run it on a dyno? I would want to see specifically how the packages perform and if there are any adjustments that can make the tunes even better.
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I would highly recommend upgrading your turbos if your looking to be in the 750+ HP and torque range. I went with Pure Turbos and SSP clutches but I did look into Weistec and a few other smaller companies offering builds but they were expensive and had no reviews. I ended up purchasing a Titanium IPE exhaust along IPE titanium downpipes then DME Stage 2 with methanol, upgraded fuel pumps and a few other goodies. Haven't dynoed her since but I am very satisfied with the end result.
man that sounds dope! how does the IPE exhaust sound?

i decided do the turbos last after upgrading everything else. I want start with the Meisterschaft exhaust first, then Dyno it with the intake i already have on.

i'm definitely gonna do the SSP clutch after that. then throw the CSF intercoolers on, Dyno again.

At this point, however, is where i get hung up on. I'm really interested in the Bootmod3 tune, especially due to the ease of changing maps and such. However, I'm struggling with doing the flash tune first or just buying the Turbo kit first.

Here's why: if i do anything with the turbos, i want the 12k Weistec kit simply because its new turbos. so if anything happens, at least i still have the stock turbos to fall back on, rather than taking off the turbos, sending them in, putting them back on, and if something happens having to start from scratch.

i understand if anything happens like that, we're talking a new motor or rebuild. but again, rather already have the stock turbos to fall back on than buying literally everything from the jump.

the issue is that from my limited understanding and research, having that much power requires forging the engine? piston, rods, etc. i like the the fact that all of these mods are bolt on and i get to screw up everything in the garage on my own, but engine internals is something i'm sure is well beyond my capabilities in a home garage.

it's like...i want to be reckless...but not uber reckless. its weird i know but i hope you understand what i mean.

so i want to make the turbos last and just see if i like the ECU flash with all the other mods done. and if not, then i'll go all in.

Weistec seems to be the only company that offers a full turbo kit, and everybody else just offers turbo upgrades. it's odd because they offer those kits but i have seen next to nothing with anybody reviewing them.

that by itself is why i'm hesitant. i don't mind trying something different and failing. but the lack of info from bmw enthusiast with the company overall seems to be a red flag for me.
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i want it to be a beast, but a beast that i got to put together. only thing i want somebody else touching is a vinyl wrap and maybe the carbon fiber aero's.
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A bit off topic but what WMI kit are you running? I’m highly considering Snow Performances kit for this summer. Regardless of your kit, have you been happy with the results of running meth?
I've been using the AEM kit with a 2 gallon tank. Couldn't have been more happier with the results. E85 is only available at 1 gas station within 50 miles from my house so going methanol for me was a no brainer.

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This isn't meant to be a "a-hole" comment, but after spending all of that money and quality upgrades, why wouldn't you run it on a dyno? I would want to see specifically how the packages perform and if there are any adjustments that can make the tunes even better.
I'd love too but I just don't have enough time to get a dyno after every upgrade between work 7 days a week and family. Everything was installed by myself in my garage, 1 part at a time over the course of a year or so. Had I upgraded everything at once, then a dyno would make more sense. Didn't really have an interest in chasing the highest numbers possible. I just did it to have fun and learn a thing or two in the process. With that said my last dyno was in the 730's for torque and whp.

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man that sounds dope! how does the IPE exhaust sound?

i decided do the turbos last after upgrading everything else. I want start with the Meisterschaft exhaust first, then Dyno it with the intake i already have on.

i'm definitely gonna do the SSP clutch after that. then throw the CSF intercoolers on, Dyno again.

At this point, however, is where i get hung up on. I'm really interested in the Bootmod3 tune, especially due to the ease of changing maps and such. However, I'm struggling with doing the flash tune first or just buying the Turbo kit first.

Here's why: if i do anything with the turbos, i want the 12k Weistec kit simply because its new turbos. so if anything happens, at least i still have the stock turbos to fall back on, rather than taking off the turbos, sending them in, putting them back on, and if something happens having to start from scratch.

i understand if anything happens like that, we're talking a new motor or rebuild. but again, rather already have the stock turbos to fall back on than buying literally everything from the jump.

the issue is that from my limited understanding and research, having that much power requires forging the engine? piston, rods, etc. i like the the fact that all of these mods are bolt on and i get to screw up everything in the garage on my own, but engine internals is something i'm sure is well beyond my capabilities in a home garage.

it's like...i want to be reckless...but not uber reckless. its weird i know but i hope you understand what i mean.

so i want to make the turbos last and just see if i like the ECU flash with all the other mods done. and if not, then i'll go all in.

Weistec seems to be the only company that offers a full turbo kit, and everybody else just offers turbo upgrades. it's odd because they offer those kits but i have seen next to nothing with anybody reviewing them.

that by itself is why i'm hesitant. i don't mind trying something different and failing. but the lack of info from BMW enthusiast with the company overall seems to be a red flag for me.
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i want it to be a beast, but a beast that i got to put together. only thing i want somebody else touching is a vinyl wrap and maybe the carbon fiber aero's.
Totally feel you man! I am the exact same way. I gain all my knowledge from the forums and try to avoid having someone else do things I could learn on my own.

The IPE exhaust sounds absolutely brutal especially with catless downpipes, I love it. I took a bit of a gamble on them as there are very few videos available online. The few that are posted are either recorded indoors or under overpasses.

I see your login with the turbos, however I wouldn't be too concerned with having an extra set to fall back on. Stock we run 2 MGT2260DSL Honeywell-Garret turbos manufactured in China. I had sourced a brand new pair from a direct distributor in China online for around 1k. Those are the turbos I had Pure Upgrade. I can send you the link if your interested.

In terms of the motor from what I understand, most of our internal engine components minus the pistons are forged from factory and can handle up to 1000 crank horsepower assuming your transmission can handle the torque. I haven't had any issues however I also have a very difficult time getting any traction.

Keep us posted on your progress!
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