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      03-24-2024, 12:31 PM   #2003
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Ynguldyn,

Hoping you can help.. I am at the verge of buying an M2.. I am in 2 minds to wait for MY 2025 or not.. the answer to following 2 questions will help me decide.

To my understanding, MY2025 will see an increase of 20Hp and 50nm of torque for automatic.

1. Will the rpms figures for hp and NM stay the same as MY2024 for automatic transmission? For current G87,

Peak torque comes in at 2,650 rpm and lasts until 5,870 rpm.
Peak power comes in almost immediately after, at 6,250 rpm and it has a 7,200 rpm redline.

Are you able to confirm if the peak torque and power output for MY 2025 will continue to happen at the same rpms as MY 2024?

2. are the 0-60 times any different?

Thank you so much!

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      03-24-2024, 03:35 PM   #2004
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Ynguldyn,

Hoping you can help.. I am at the verge of buying an M2.. I am in 2 minds to wait for MY 2025 or not.. the answer to following 2 questions will help me decide.

To my understanding, MY2025 will see an increase of 20Hp and 50nm of torque for automatic.

1. Will the rpms figures for hp and NM stay the same as MY2024 for automatic transmission? For current G87,

Peak torque comes in at 2,650 rpm and lasts until 5,870 rpm.
Peak power comes in almost immediately after, at 6,250 rpm and it has a 7,200 rpm redline.

Are you able to confirm if the peak torque and power output for MY 2025 will continue to happen at the same rpms as MY 2024?

2. are the 0-60 times any different?

Thank you so much!
I'm sorry but do you really think about all these numbers when driving?

You will notice the interior changes more than anything else.
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      03-24-2024, 07:57 PM   #2005
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Didnít want to have buyers remorse, if the torque was gonna be offered at much lower rpms as that would translate to a better daily for my use case. Thatís all.

Regarding the interior ó itís getting idrive 8.5. I donít think I would notice that difference too much. Unless it were getting new flat-bottomed steering wheel as M4 LCI or changing the gear shifter from traditional looking to a stub (yikes!!), in which case I will book the MY2024.

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      03-24-2024, 11:01 PM   #2006
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Didnít want to have buyers remorse, if the torque was gonna be offered at much lower rpms as that would translate to a better daily for my use case. Thatís all.
After you buy yourself a new car, there's always a newer and better model that comes later.
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      03-25-2024, 01:27 PM   #2007
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Ynguldyn, do you have any information about BMW's plans for the Alpina brand from 2026 ?
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      03-26-2024, 04:43 AM   #2008
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Added I20 LCI lineup.
Will there be an M3 CS after the LCI happens this summer?
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      03-31-2024, 08:14 AM   #2009
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03/25: i5 models refreshed (unknown what exactly will change).
As it is now about a year out - any news on what will change exactly next year for G60/G61 i5?
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      04-01-2024, 12:48 PM   #2010
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Didnít want to have buyers remorse, if the torque was gonna be offered at much lower rpms as that would translate to a better daily for my use case. Thatís all.

Regarding the interior ó itís getting idrive 8.5. I donít think I would notice that difference too much. Unless it were getting new flat-bottomed steering wheel as M4 LCI or changing the gear shifter from traditional looking to a stub (yikes!!), in which case I will book the MY2024.

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Snowy: You should probably get the MY2025 of the M2. So close to July production, it would be foolish to get the MY2024. Always better to get a car at the beginning of the model year (MY2025) than at the very end of the model year (MY2024).
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Snowy: You should probably get the MY2025 of the M2. So close to July production, it would be foolish to get the MY2024. Always better to get a car at the beginning of the model year (MY2025) than at the very end of the model year (MY2024).
Why is that always better?
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      04-02-2024, 04:19 AM   #2012
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Snowy: You should probably get the MY2025 of the M2. So close to July production, it would be foolish to get the MY2024. Always better to get a car at the beginning of the model year (MY2025) than at the very end of the model year (MY2024).
I have decided to wait. I have confirmation on 20PS, 50nm increase, idrive 8.5, flat bottomed steering wheel, new color options (fire red, S„o Paulo yellow, skyscraper grey, portimao blue; sorry ó no Java green or purple shade), and there could be other minor things as well.

Thanks.
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      04-02-2024, 09:11 AM   #2013
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Snowy: You should probably get the MY2025 of the M2. So close to July production, it would be foolish to get the MY2024. Always better to get a car at the beginning of the model year (MY2025) than at the very end of the model year (MY2024).
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I have decided to wait. I have confirmation on 20PS, 50nm increase, idrive 8.5, flat bottomed steering wheel, new color options (fire red, S„o Paulo yellow, skyscraper grey, portimao blue; sorry ó no Java green or purple shade), and there could be other minor things as well.

Thanks.
Solid upgrades. I agree better to wait. Still wish there were a WBS variant.
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      04-03-2024, 02:08 PM   #2014
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Added a bunch of updates on various things.
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      04-08-2024, 04:09 PM   #2015
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Are there any known feature/option updates for MY2025 G60 in the US? If not, when does this info usually become available...May/June? Thanks.
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I'm really curious to see what the noticeable difference will be between the Neue Klasse iX3 and the 2026 G65 iX5. Both vehicles would be of interest to me as the successor to my current i4.

The iX5 is also supposed to get the new telematic system EES25. In addition, you have already announced updates to the EM / batteries for the i5 and i4. In the end, I somehow can't imagine that a 2026 G65 iX5 will be worse off (in terms of range, charging speed, assistance systems and infotainment) than a 2025 NK iX3.

Are there any initial indications of how BMW will deal with this?
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      04-20-2024, 03:23 PM   #2017
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The i4 drivetrain refresh in 07/25 will result in i4 M50 becoming i4 M60 xDrive with 590hp.
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ynguldyn Is there any plan for an LCI of the G09 XM? I suspect no given the short production run (of only 5 years)...

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As it is now about a year out - any news on what will change exactly next year for G60/G61 i5?
Doesn't seem to be much. I'm expecting (with less than 100% confidence though) some improvements but no radical changes. Power output will remain the same, packaging will remain the same, it should just be something in the electrical system. I believe the best way to look at this refresh is like a T‹ for the engine of a traditional car where sometimes only the mechanics working under the hood could see a difference. In this case, from the consumer standpoint, I won't be surprised some extra mileage to be the only noticeable thing.
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Fingers crossed they will remove the tacky ď5Ē from the rear window/door trim and the terrible black plastic side skirts.
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Fingers crossed they will remove the tacky ď5Ē from the rear window/door trim and the terrible black plastic side skirts.
This kind of thing only happens at LCI.
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This kind of thing only happens at LCI.
I figured. But they did remove the chrome door handle strip from the G30 after 2018, well before the LCI. So I thought maybe at least the plastic ď5Ē might have a chance to get lost. But I hear you and good point. Thanks for the updates.
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Doesn't seem to be much. I'm expecting (with less than 100% confidence though) some improvements but no radical changes. Power output will remain the same, packaging will remain the same, it should just be something in the electrical system. I believe the best way to look at this refresh is like a T‹ for the engine of a traditional car where sometimes only the mechanics working under the hood could see a difference. In this case, from the consumer standpoint, I won't be surprised some extra mileage to be the only noticeable thing.
Could it be support for V2L and V2G?
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Could it be support for V2L and V2G?
Highly unlikely.
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