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Amazing performance, substandard sound 51 62.20%
Amazing sound, substandard performance 31 37.80%
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      07-09-2021, 07:52 PM   #23
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A lot of the comments are so subjective w many gray areas, that's why I tried to make it more absolute/extreme in the OP/poll, i.e. if you can only have 1 and not the other.

It's too easy and there's no wrong answer if you're saying stuff like "sure I'd have a 65 percentile performer w 90 percentile exhaust sound instead of a 70/55" - that's a no-brainer, but what about 10/90 vs 90/10? Anyway, I find sound to be extremely subjective (vs performance which is more quantifiable) and the 'worst' I've heard is just a muted sound, nothing to go crazy over and toss the car away if the performance is good.
right its very subjective. and most of us are in the gray area. For instance if you gave me the choice between a model 3 performance and a foxbody mustang or fbody camaro... i'd take the model 3. There are other factors to a car besides sound even though i love NA motors with a manual trans.

model 3 performance vs e92 m3 --- i'd take the e92 even though its slower in every metric.
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      07-19-2021, 11:05 PM   #25
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It depends, if the car is my only source of fun then sound is very important to a sports car

If i have a big stable then i can have some cars specialized in performance at the cost of sound, but you can bet at least one of my cars would have great exhaust note ;-)
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Performance over sound. All day long. Don't get me wrong, I love a great exhaust note; but, I drive to get where I am going....quickly. I prefer to move quickly and quietly through a crowd. Not trying to be flashy or draw attention to myself, this is where tickets come from. This is also how you end up with Mustangs trying to race you between lights, and ultimately getting in my way, thus costing me time.

I need speed, clear lanes and to be unnoticed. If I could be invisible, I would be.
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Define substandard performance.
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      07-20-2021, 09:10 AM   #28
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performance.

great sound just lets the other guy know how much he is getting gapped by
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      07-20-2021, 09:14 AM   #29
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All other things being equal, I would say my F82 CS has better performance than my E92 M3 ever did. However, I connected much better with the E92 and the sound was a huge part of that. I'd take the E92 over an F82.
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Using the word "substandard" is out of place, and irrational (who is to define what is substandard?)

The OG M2, for example, can be said to have above standard performance, as well as a wonderful sound. The M2C can be show to have increased performance over the OG M2, but an obviously less than desirable sound.

If the point of this poll is another comparison, I'll take the M2.
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      07-20-2021, 09:33 AM   #31
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I have owned/own a M2 and M2C.

I think everyone agrees that they both "perform" well. Not going to get into one being better or not.

I also think everyone agrees that the M2 "sounds" better than the M2C.

So given that both perform lets say equally but one sounds clearly "better" than the other, if asked, given the choice would I pick the M2C over the M2, "my" answer is YES. If asked, would I not purchase a M2C b/c of how it sounds, "my" answer is NO and I don't think it sounds bad just different.
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      07-20-2021, 10:03 AM   #32
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Sarcasm? Odd. For what?

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      07-20-2021, 01:12 PM   #33
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My inability to balance the two is how I ended up in a V10 R8.
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      07-20-2021, 05:30 PM   #34
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Tight steering with adequate road information/feel through the wheel
Planted chassis
No turbo lag
Paddle shifters
Loud enough to flex on people without being so loud it's annoying or obnoxious
Quick enough to feel "fast" without being too fast that the fun ends immediately and you're in go-to-jail speeds.
Handsome looks in a flashy color

So basically. Porsche 911 Carrera, Boxster S, or M2.
You're describing a ton of cars. Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT, Vette, any V8 Benz, M850i, etc.

You could dwindle that list down by choosing a car with a proper manual transmission. Also, all 3 cars you mentioned have some sort of turbo lag, the Boxter especially with it's 4 banger.
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Accept no compromises in either sound or performance.
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I will always choose a great performance, that is the first thing that I consider when buying a car. I prefer a better feature over a loud or good sound.
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You're describing a ton of cars. Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT, Vette, any V8 Benz, M850i, etc.

You could dwindle that list down by choosing a car with a proper manual transmission. Also, all 3 cars you mentioned have some sort of turbo lag, the Boxter especially with it's 4 banger.
Jeep, V8 Mercs, 850 don't have steering feel.

I'll add Alfa Giulia Quadrofoglio to my list.
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      07-24-2021, 08:02 PM   #38
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Look at the efforts people go to make their car sound sick this guys svj sounds like a F1 car



I think sound is more of a factor when choosing a sports car than you think
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      07-24-2021, 09:44 PM   #39
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Sound for me, though this appears to likely have both.

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This video convinced me, that I'd take great performance any day! Although I love great sound and forgot how I voted. LOL.

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So go buy a Tesla And just drive in silence??
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So go buy a Tesla And just drive in silence??
The Rimac comes to mind…
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      07-25-2021, 01:48 PM   #43
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I voted amazing sound with substandard performance, as I never got a definition for "substandard performance". Using the next gen C63 as an example, it is coming with hybrid power and a 4 banger. I would much rather have a W204 or W205 C63, more sound but less perf.
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Depends on the car.

Luxurious, sporty vehicle= Sound

A bad ass 1K WHP plus car = Performance. How can you enjoy sound when you have a noisy car.
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