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Did you guys see? Vettel disqualified and Ham now has P2.

Not enough fuel left over.
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Vettel disqualified???? Fuck the FIA. Fuck Masi. Fuck fuck fuck 😡😡😡
Sad but in the regulations. The identical thing happened to both VET and HAM back in 2012. Gutted for AM and VET. I bet they took a chance on safety cars which always happen in Hungary and short-fueled the car. It just didn't work out. This is on the strategy director and Otmar.
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      08-01-2021, 03:35 PM   #442
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The DQ is on the pit wall - they should have been monitoring the levels relaying info to VET. Really unfortunate as VET had one hell of a race.
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      08-01-2021, 03:36 PM   #443
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The DQ is on the pit wall - they should have been monitoring the levels relaying info to VET. Really unfortunate as VET had one hell of a race.
This.

Not Masi, not the Stewards. This is self-inflicted. They gambled and lost.
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      08-01-2021, 03:39 PM   #444
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That's a really shitty way to lose that result for Vettel, after having battled that complete race.
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      08-01-2021, 03:44 PM   #445
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Stopping where he did wouldn't have been close to saving enough fuel. Damn, gutted for Seb.

It's a shame they don't test by the weight of the leftover fuel vs the liter since that's how they measure overall fuel load. Nitpicking for sure, just bummed that Seb doesn't get his earned results.
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Stopping where he did wouldn't have been close to saving enough fuel. Damn, gutted for Seb.

It's a shame they don't test by the weight of the leftover fuel vs the liter since that's how they measure overall fuel load. Nitpicking for sure, just bummed that Seb doesn't get his earned results.
It's a shame because it looks like he's the only one trying while in the #2 seat - Stroll has been a massive disappointment and it is looking like last years performance is a direct result of being in a "Pink Mercedes" rather than driver.
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Did you guys see? Vettel disqualified and Ham now has P2.

Not enough fuel left over.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp
And SAI P3
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Stopping where he did wouldn't have been close to saving enough fuel. Damn, gutted for Seb.

It's a shame they don't test by the weight of the leftover fuel vs the liter since that's how they measure overall fuel load. Nitpicking for sure, just bummed that Seb doesn't get his earned results.
It's a shame because it looks like he's the only one trying while in the #2 seat - Stroll has been a massive disappointment and it is looking like last years performance is a direct result of being in a "Pink Mercedes" rather than driver.
Daddy Stroll has a good platform either way. If Lance underperforms he can use the excuse that he's going up against a 4x world champ. If Lance does great, he can announce that his son is beating a 4x world champ. Either way is an easy out for him.
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Breaking News!!!

It's HAMs fault after all!!

There were 1.44 L of fuel in the AM. 1 Liter and .44 of another Liter. Since 44 is HAMs number, Lewis must have sabotaged the AM and caused the AM team to be unable to remove an adequate amount for a sample.

The FIA, Masi, Toto, and Lewis strike again!!!


I thought I'd beat the normal bunch to this.
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Anyone else wondering if they will modify race restart rules after the silly restart this race?
i.e. not pitting on the formation lap?
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It's HAMs fault after all!!

There were 1.44 L of fuel in the AM. 1 Liter and .44 of another Liter. Since 44 is HAMs number, Lewis must have sabotaged the AM and caused the AM team to be unable to remove an adequate amount for a sample.

The FIA, Masi, Toto, and Lewis strike again!!!


I thought I'd beat the normal bunch to this.
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This is indeed breaking news!!!!

I read another big news story that Toto convinced SEB to eat a foot long sandwich just before the race....which threw the weight calc off and the AM consumed more fuel!!!!
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Great race, sucks to hear that about Seb.

If Mercedes hadn't botched that restart Hamilton would have lapped the field lol.
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The ALO vs HAM wheel-to-wheel battle over multiple laps was textbook WDC driver acumen....perhaps RBR can replay this incredible battle for Crash-stop-pen in an attempt to show him "how real GP drivers do it".
Spot on!!
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Anyone else wondering if they will modify race restart rules after the silly restart this race?
i.e. not pitting on the formation lap?
Probably not - it was only a clusterf--k only because of the weather forecast. If it were sunny or dry with no possibility of rain in the forecast, it would have likely been a standing restart.

But if it started to rain, it would have acted as an emergency pit stop to allow for the intermediate tires to be put on instead of running a lap on slicks and risk further accidents.
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Great race, sucks to hear that about Seb.

If Mercedes hadn't botched that restart Hamilton would have lapped the field lol.
I thought about this too, but I didn't no proper procedures and rules especially when the entire field entered for a pit stop!

I didn't know that Mercedes was the first pit so that would have likely meant HAM would have been last anyway or somewhere near the end - don't see how HAM would got in a favourable position with the train of cars entering the pit lane and without causing some sort of collision.

The only difference I could have seen is that HAM wouldn't have had to work as hard to make up positions and there would have been a higher possibility to even win the race, we've seen HAM do this many times.
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I thought about this too, but I didn't no proper procedures and rules especially when the entire field entered for a pit stop!

I didn't know that Mercedes was the first pit so that would have likely meant HAM would have been last anyway or somewhere near the end - don't see how HAM would got in a favourable position with the train of cars entering the pit lane and without causing some sort of collision.

The only difference I could have seen is that HAM wouldn't have had to work as hard to make up positions and there would have been a higher possibility to even win the race, we've seen HAM do this many times.
Crazy thing is HAM would have won that race if not for ALO....IMHO
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I thought about this too, but I didn't no proper procedures and rules especially when the entire field entered for a pit stop!

I didn't know that Mercedes was the first pit so that would have likely meant HAM would have been last anyway or somewhere near the end - don't see how HAM would got in a favourable position with the train of cars entering the pit lane and without causing some sort of collision.

The only difference I could have seen is that HAM wouldn't have had to work as hard to make up positions and there would have been a higher possibility to even win the race, we've seen HAM do this many times.
F1.com's interview with Toto and HAM could not have been more different; Toto stated it was the correct call and he would do it again; HAM said they made a mistake and should have pitted with the others....
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This.

Not Masi, not the Stewards. This is self-inflicted. They gambled and lost.
Lol of course Masi is just following rules but sometimes we like to vent with some colorful language.
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Crazy thing is HAM would have won that race if not for ALO....IMHO
Mathematically, it was possible - HAM was notified that despite the blunder, a win was very much possible and it looked like HAM would pull off another comeback but ALO was masterful at defending.

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F1.com's interview with Toto and HAM could not have been more different; Toto stated it was the correct call and he would do it again; HAM said they made a mistake and should have pitted with the others....
I watched that and found it interesting. Again, based on the final outcome, nothing was really lost - HAM just had to work extremely hard to make up positions.
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