My "Classic" 650

Opie55 · 11-18-2022, 02:08 PM

Although I have not been to a dealer since my CPO warranty expired in June 2019, I still get the periodic service "deals" email. Among the deals was a new battery for $539, which made me laugh. But the last coupon was for 15% off service on any "Classic BMW", which was defined as any car 8 years old or older. My 2015 has an in-service date in mid-2014, and 2023s are out now, so I guess in our throw-away society the car I still think of as my "new" car now qualifies as a classic. And since my X3 is a 2014, I guess I'm like Jay Leno and can tell people I collect classic cars.

Qsilver7 · 11-18-2022, 07:38 PM

I do wonder if BMW is trying to change a bit. Just like the BMW Value Services they offer now for cars that are older than 60 months and/or have more than 60k miles.

They appear to be offering some services to those that may not be DIY’ers at kind of reasonable pricing to perhaps keep the owners “in-the-fold”. The value services appear to be offered to those that fall outside the initial extended services when the 1st warranty ends.

As I get older…these “value services” are becoming more tempting because I start dreading that cold concrete garage floor…and the struggle to get up off my little slider thingy to get under the car.

thebmw · 11-18-2022, 09:38 PM

The F06/F13 are classics, even before they were "old" by BMW standards. Every time I receive the 3 year/$199 oil change deal, I wonder if I should take it, especially since I get 2 oil changes/year due to mileage. But I refuse it because BMW oil sucks. The 5w30 is too thick when cold and too thin when hot (it is hot every single time it it at temperature assuming the N63). I have started using 0w40 and it is perfect on both ends. BMW does not stock or use 0w40, despite all of their oil leak and oil consumption issues! Are BMW engineers or marketing idiots...no, see below:

While I may save a few bucks with their deals, I will be replacing oil pans, gaskets, and engines a lot sooner than I wanted. Maybe this is what BMW is trying to ultimately do with their "value" marketing...brilliant on their part!

Opie55 · 11-19-2022, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Qsilver7

I do wonder if BMW is trying to change a bit. Just like the BMW Value Services they offer now for cars that are older than 60 months and/or have more than 60k miles.

They appear to be offering some services to those that may not be DIY’ers at kind of reasonable pricing to perhaps keep the owners “in-the-fold”. The value services appear to be offered to those that fall outside the initial extended services when the 1st warranty ends.

As I get older…these “value services” are becoming more tempting because I start dreading that cold concrete garage floor…and the struggle to get up off my little slider thingy to get under the car.

My "little slider thingy" is a flattened large carboard box I last bought something in.

SWFLf10 · 11-19-2022, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie55

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Originally Posted by Qsilver7

I do wonder if BMW is trying to change a bit. Just like the BMW Value Services they offer now for cars that are older than 60 months and/or have more than 60k miles.

They appear to be offering some services to those that may not be DIY'ers at kind of reasonable pricing to perhaps keep the owners "in-the-fold". The value services appear to be offered to those that fall outside the initial extended services when the 1st warranty ends.

As I get older…these "value services" are becoming more tempting because I start dreading that cold concrete garage floor…and the struggle to get up off my little slider thingy to get under the car.

My "little slider thingy" is a flattened large carboard box I last bought something in.

Having an actual creeper (I believe that's the correct term) makes it so much nicer to work under the car. I have one my grandfather made back in the day. Just needs some lube on the wheels every now and then.

Opie55 · 11-19-2022, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SWFLf10

Having an actual creeper (I believe that's the correct term) makes it so much nicer to work under the car. I have one my grandfather made back in the day. Just needs some lube on the wheels every now and then.

Yeah, but under a low car like a 650 on just ramps it would get real tight quickly with the added height of a creeper. Plus the carboard catches random oil drips.

Alpine650 · 11-19-2022, 06:00 PM

I prefer the upright position so I can read the text saying "Your car is ready".

SWFLf10 · 11-20-2022, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie55

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Originally Posted by SWFLf10

Having an actual creeper (I believe that's the correct term) makes it so much nicer to work under the car. I have one my grandfather made back in the day. Just needs some lube on the wheels every now and then.

Yeah, but under a low car like a 650 on just ramps it would get real tight quickly with the added height of a creeper. Plus the carboard catches random oil drips.

You have a few good points there. I generally use my Quick Jack lift to get more room. For something quick and easy like and oil change it is definitely easier to just use ramps for sure. And the cardboard drip catcher is a good touch.

Opie55 · 11-20-2022, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine650

I prefer the upright position so I can read the text saying "Your car is ready".

I think the full text of the text is "Your car is ready. Please know that the tech was thinking about his fantasy football team, so he replaced the drain plug before the old oil had all drained out, he didn't bother to replace the crush washer, he overtightened the drain plug, let oil run all over the belly pan when he removed the filter, and stripped two belly pans screws. Thank you for your business."

SWFLf10 · 11-20-2022, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie55

I think the full text of the text is "Your car is ready. Please know that the tech was thinking about his fantasy football team, so he replaced the drain plug before the old oil had all drained out, he didn't bother to replace the crush washer, he overtightened the drain plug, let oil run all over the belly pan when he removed the filter, and stripped two belly pans screws. Thank you for your business."

Yeah, even if the price is right, I generally prefer to do my own maintenance for this reason. Nobody cares about your vehicle like you do.

Alpine650 · 11-20-2022, 12:49 PM

Not all mechanics are incompetent. And I have yet to experience any of those problems with an oil change.

11-18-2022, 02:08 PM	#1
Opie55 Colonel 1195 Rep 2,908 Posts Drives: '15 650i Convertible Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: US iTrader: (0)	My "Classic" 650 Although I have not been to a dealer since my CPO warranty expired in June 2019, I still get the periodic service "deals" email. Among the deals was a new battery for $539, which made me laugh. But the last coupon was for 15% off service on any "Classic BMW", which was defined as any car 8 years old or older. My 2015 has an in-service date in mid-2014, and 2023s are out now, so I guess in our throw-away society the car I still think of as my "new" car now qualifies as a classic. And since my X3 is a 2014, I guess I'm like Jay Leno and can tell people I collect classic cars.
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Qsilver7 Major General 4448 Rep 7,488 Posts Drives: F06 650ix GC / F15 X5 50i Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Indiana, USA iTrader: (0)	I do wonder if BMW is trying to change a bit. Just like the BMW Value Services they offer now for cars that are older than 60 months and/or have more than 60k miles. They appear to be offering some services to those that may not be DIY’ers at kind of reasonable pricing to perhaps keep the owners “in-the-fold”. The value services appear to be offered to those that fall outside the initial extended services when the 1st warranty ends. As I get older…these “value services” are becoming more tempting because I start dreading that cold concrete garage floor…and the struggle to get up off my little slider thingy to get under the car. __________________ 2015 F06 650ix Gran Coupe`(Moonstone/Cohiba Brown)\| 2014 F15 X5 50i MSport (Space Gray/Mocha) Become a BMW CCA member! Click HERE to join and feel free to use my BMW CCA member #191509 as a referral.
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thebmw Post Advisor 1634 Rep 1,695 Posts Drives: More Manuals than Automatics Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Illinois iTrader: (10)	The F06/F13 are classics, even before they were "old" by BMW standards. Every time I receive the 3 year/$199 oil change deal, I wonder if I should take it, especially since I get 2 oil changes/year due to mileage. But I refuse it because BMW oil sucks. The 5w30 is too thick when cold and too thin when hot (it is hot every single time it it at temperature assuming the N63). I have started using 0w40 and it is perfect on both ends. BMW does not stock or use 0w40, despite all of their oil leak and oil consumption issues! Are BMW engineers or marketing idiots...no, see below: While I may save a few bucks with their deals, I will be replacing oil pans, gaskets, and engines a lot sooner than I wanted. Maybe this is what BMW is trying to ultimately do with their "value" marketing...brilliant on their part!
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Alpine650 Second Lieutenant 78 Rep 282 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW 650i xDrive Vert Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	I prefer the upright position so I can read the text saying "Your car is ready".
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Alpine650 Second Lieutenant 78 Rep 282 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW 650i xDrive Vert Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Not all mechanics are incompetent. And I have yet to experience any of those problems with an oil change.
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