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[thebmw]

Sorry to hear what happened OP. If the keyfobs are being hacked, which is what it sounds like, what a coverup by BMW, AXA, and I'm sure many other manufacturers and insurance companies. How has this story not seen more national and international attention?

[caipi]

Originally Posted by thebmw

Sorry to hear what happened OP. If the keyfobs are being hacked, which is what it sounds like, what a coverup by BMW, AXA, and I'm sure many other manufacturers and insurance companies. How has this story not seen more national and international attention?

That's exactly what I think. Today I did sent another email to BMW Munich and no answer at all.
Axa won't investigate because the more about hacking a key fob and potentially data continues to add on fob will be known, the more likely, they have to pay. I know from other cases, where the same has happened but the ones who went to court, did not win their cases. Now I am fighting that BMW admits that a fob can continue to add data after it was hacked and car stolen.

Both, AXA and BMW quiet as a mouse. I will chase them and if I have to, I go to the European Court of Justice.

They are happy to grab your money, once something goes wrong, they put their tale between their legs and hide, manipulate, accuse etc.

They are not finished with me.

[JMAN1111]

It looks like you need to lawyer up immediately.

[caipi]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...O-SECONDS.html

[murph914]

Originally Posted by caipi

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...O-SECONDS.html

BMW would be out of their mind to openly admit that their cars can be stolen because of a security vulnerability. If they admitted this they would be open to litigation.

The only way to get this resolved is to get a lawyer to force BMW and AXA to respond. Like I have said before the other alternative would be a media campaign to apply pressure to BMW, AXA, and the companies that supply the vulnerable hardware to BMW.

Sending emails to BMW in hopes of getting a response is fruitless. Of course with so much money at stake (not just your car, but all cars possibly stolen in the same manner) you need to be careful. You could find yourself at the end of a defamation lawsuit if BMW feels you are attacking their brand.

Get a lawyer.

[FBMWWINS]

Really feeling sorry for you and empathising! It could happen to anyone of us....... I often drive through Italy for example and at the service stations (big ones with lots of people) during the summer period it's full of gangs specialised in driving away anyones's car with comfort access as soon as the signal has been intercepted. For this reason I got myself a Key Fob holder bag with RFID Signal Blocking. Seems to be working so far.

Indeed a lawyer is your only chance though it will cost you it is the only way you can make something out of it. And given the proportion of the case it is worth it! Of course a (good) lawyer during preliminary talks should be able to tell you how your chances are or at least give you a little win hope in this case based on (hopefully) solid arguments.

[caipi]

[murph914]

Just saw this and thought of you. Where do you stand with your insurance company?

https://www.businessinsider.com/thie...police-2017-11

[Deroberson]

Reading this post...I just ordered a 2 pack of the Faraday bags off Amazon...thanks for the info.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/access...-blockers-2018

[Qsilver7]

Originally Posted by caipi

Ahhh...this is the first time I've seen this video...but I know what & why the restart occurred as soon as it happened

Apparently BMW has NOT changed an ews engineering point....which is...EWS has a 10 second "time-out" right after engine shut down. If you restart the car within 10 seconds...EWS doesn't require the ISN (individual serial number) or encrypted code to restart the engine.

For instance, back during the mid 90s when EWS II debuted (Jan/1995) along with the generation of BMWs that followed (e38/e39/e46/e53/etc) that also used mechanical keys...if you had a non-working key that wouldn't start the car...some owners found that the non-working key would actually start the car if they used their working key first. They thought something weird was going on...but it wasn't.

EWS was designed to not require the code if a restart occurred within 10 seconds of shut down...and apparently this small window still exists because the guy in the video restarted the car within this same time frame while following the procedure to start his BMW (step on the brake while pushing the START button).

So just to soothe the fears of those that may have freaked out when they saw that...its not a big deal (but a neat trick if you wan't to warm up your car and lock it for security during the winter). EWS is working as it should.

Although EWS has become more technical since 1995...looks like the DME's 10 second cancellation is still embedded in the engineering design: