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      12-17-2018, 10:31 PM   #1
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2015 M6 GC CP valuation

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2015 M6 Gran Coupe
Singapore grey
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Msrp $136,100

1 owner
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33,500 miles
CPO til 10/2020 (factory ends 10/2019)
Maintenance warranty doesnt transfer...what maintenance will i miss that would have been covered here?

All records available. 1200 mi service completed. Tires and brakes good.

Whats the forums opinion on price and valuation?

I wish it were a 2016...but hey...this is what Ive found at the moment. Is a 2015 that much “worse”?

BTW- i asked how much it would cost to extend the BMW CPO to 6 years...$5900! Ha! For 1 year additional

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I assume this is MY15, not MY16, or is it actually made in 15? The big difference the headlights if you're talking about looks. Otherwise Flying Ace has a good summary here

https://www.6post.com/forums/showpos...38&postcount=4
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I assume this is MY15, not MY16, or is it actually made in 15? The big difference the headlights if you're talking about looks. Otherwise Flying Ace has a good summary here

https://www.6post.com/forums/showpos...38&postcount=4
Model year 2015

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I assume this is MY15, not MY16, or is it actually made in 15? The big difference the headlights if you're talking about looks. Otherwise Flying Ace has a good summary here

https://www.6post.com/forums/showpos...38&postcount=4
The post says LCI headlights were introduced in MY15
From everything i read, it wasnt til MY16....correct me if Im wrong
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The post says LCI headlights were introduced in MY15
From everything i read, it wasnt til MY16....correct me if Im wrong
I'm not sure about the US model years as we don't use them, but production started early 2015 for them. The differences are shown in these two threads

https://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647170

https://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1067822

You can't really miss it! For me it was the one external thing I wasn't a big fan of so I was very happy that BMW updated the headlight design.
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For a CPO, $58k would be my limit. Anything in mid $50s would be a good price. Low $50s would be a steal. What's current list price?

Your question maintenance doesn't make sense. Over what time period are you asking this question? There's an annual oil change ($230 dealer) and brake change every 3 years. Those are the big ones. Spark plugs at 60k mile timeframe and rear diff fluids as well.
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For a CPO, $58k would be my limit. Anything in mid $50s would be a good price. Low $50s would be a steal. What's current list price?

Your question maintenance doesn't make sense. Over what time period are you asking this question? There's an annual oil change ($230 dealer) and brake change every 3 years. Those are the big ones. Spark plugs at 60k mile timeframe and rear diff fluids as well.
They are asking $57,500 and are firm on the asking price per their pricing method (bmw dealer)

In regards to maintenance, usually its 4yrs but since im not the 1st owner, the remaining 1 year doesnt transfer over. What would i be missing in this 4th year (between the 33k and 48k mile period) that would have otherwise been included free
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They are asking $57,500 and are firm on the asking price per their pricing method (bmw dealer)

In regards to maintenance, usually its 4yrs but since im not the 1st owner, the remaining 1 year doesnt transfer over. What would i be missing in this 4th year (between the 33k and 48k mile period) that would have otherwise been included free
$57.5 is fair price. Not terrible, but not great either. Unless there's something you absolutely love about the car, I would keep shopping or beat him up on pricing to get him to $55.

The 4th year would be 1 oil change and possibly brakes. Have th take a picture of the CBS screen for you. It's all conditions based anyways. I'm too lazy to look, but can anyone crack open your warranty/maintenance manual and look up plugs interval? I want to say every 4th oil change requires plugs (budget $800 dealer pricing), and possibly brakes ($2000 Indy pricing).
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136.1k MSRP is absurd....

I'm waiting until mid-Summer to hopefully jump on a GC similarly spec'd like yours, just non-CPO. All depends on my finances though.

Considering it's CPO, 57.5k isn't a bad deal at all.
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I assume this is MY15, not MY16, or is it actually made in 15? The big difference the headlights if you're talking about looks. Otherwise Flying Ace has a good summary here

https://www.6post.com/forums/showpos...38&postcount=4
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The post says LCI headlights were introduced in MY15
From everything i read, it wasnt til MY16....correct me if Im wrong
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I'm not sure about the US model years as we don't use them, but production started early 2015 for them. The differences are shown in these two threads

https://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647170

https://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1067822

You can't really miss it! For me it was the one external thing I wasn't a big fan of so I was very happy that BMW updated the headlight design.
I was mistaken(bimmerpost mistakenly posted it for MY15). It appears MY2016 was LCI headlight refresh. I Googled pics of a few 2015s and they all had the older headlights.

Here's the original post. https://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1067822

LCI headlights gets rid of the LED turn signals on the bottom.
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$57.5 is fair price. Not terrible, but not great either. Unless there's something you absolutely love about the car, I would keep shopping or beat him up on pricing to get him to $55.

The 4th year would be 1 oil change and possibly brakes. Have th take a picture of the CBS screen for you. It's all conditions based anyways. I'm too lazy to look, but can anyone crack open your warranty/maintenance manual and look up plugs interval? I want to say every 4th oil change requires plugs (budget $800 dealer pricing), and possibly brakes ($2000 Indy pricing).
The CPO qualification cert shows that the front brakes are due in 14k miles and rears are due in 9k miles.. fluid flush was done 1 year ago. Not sure about rotors though

Only thing due soon is oil change, air filter, and cabin filter

Tires are 4-5mm thread from the top of the wear bars. Michelin PS4.
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136.1k MSRP is absurd....

I'm waiting until mid-Summer to hopefully jump on a GC similarly spec'd like yours, just non-CPO. All depends on my finances though.

Considering it's CPO, 57.5k isn't a bad deal at all.
Model 156M M6 GC $115,700
Color B41 Singapore Gray Metallic N/C N/C
Upholstery X3SW Black Full Merino Leather 3,500.00
Options ZCP Competition Package 6,000.00
7MA Competition Package
ZDB Driving Assistance Plus 1,900.00
5AG Active Blind Spot Detection
5AS Active Driving Assistant
5DL Side and Top View Cameras
8TH Speed Limit Info
ZEC Executive Package 4,800.00
248 Heated Steering Wheel
415 Power rear sunshade
416 Rear sunshades
453 Front ventilated seats
455 Active front seats
496 Heated rear seats
552 Adaptive Full LED Lights
5AC Automatic High Beams
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1CA CO2 relevant vehicles N/C N/C
2NZ 20" M wheel 343M w/perf nonrft N/C N/C
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322 Comfort Access keyless entry N/C N/C
323 Soft-close automatic doors N/C N/C
3AG Rear view camera N/C N/C
423 Floor mats N/C N/C
441 Smoker's package N/C N/C
464 Ski bag N/C N/C
4MA Multi-function seats w/lumbar N/C N/C
4NB 4-zone climate control N/C N/C
508 Park Distance Control N/C N/C
609 Navigation system N/C N/C
655 SiriusXM Radio w/ 1 year sub. N/C N/C
697 DVD Area coding, North America N/C N/C
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6AP Remote Services N/C N/C
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6NS Enhanced B/T and Smartphone In 500.00
8KL Oil Chg 10,000 mls/12 months N/C N/C
8S4 Variable Light Decoding N/C N/C
8TN Daytime driving lights N/C N/C
925 Shipping package N/C N/C
9AA Transport protection N/C N/C
ZTM Tier 2 N/C N/C
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Also, the CPO is a limited warranty of course. A list of things not covered mentions SMG. Does the DCT fall under this category?

https://cpo.bmwusa.com/Content/docs/...NotCovered.pdf
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Whats the estimated depreciation over the next 2 years?

I dont think i would want to kee this car after the CPO ends, unless I can get a excellent 3rd party extended warranty that is not only as good as the paper its written on
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I think that price is fair. In comparison I bought my 2015 black sapphire metallic with red interior, same options as you + carbon ceramics cpo 27,700 miles for $64,000 in August of this year. My warranty is up 05/2020
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I think that price is fair. In comparison I bought my 2015 black sapphire metallic with red interior, same options as you + carbon ceramics cpo 27,700 miles for $64,000 in August of this year. My warranty is up 05/2020
You have a more desireable color, 6k fewer miles, and CCB
But 5 months less warranty and paid $6500 more

Decent trade off and comparison depending on color/options desired
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I think that price is fair. In comparison I bought my 2015 black sapphire metallic with red interior, same options as you + carbon ceramics cpo 27,700 miles for $64,000 in August of this year. My warranty is up 05/2020
You have a more desireable color, 6k fewer miles, and CCB
But 5 months less warranty and paid $6500 more

Decent trade off and comparison depending on color/options desired
Yeah just giving you an idea since I just purchased. Factory warranty ends 05/2019, cpo 05/2020.

I purchased with 1 year and 9 months left of factory warranty. I'm now obviously -4 months.

I searched for 4 months. Exterior and interior colors seemed to play a crucial role to pricing. I for one wanted red interior as must and on the exterior San Merino blue, white or a mint black. I happen to find a mint black.

They did hold the car at $66k and I got them to shave off $2k.
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Whats the estimated depreciation over the next 2 years?

I dont think i would want to kee this car after the CPO ends, unless I can get a excellent 3rd party extended warranty that is not only as good as the paper its written on
Eat $20k over next 2 years
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Eat $20k over next 2 years
I figured $1k/m
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