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      08-21-2014, 11:16 PM   #1
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Man, I should have gotten the Meisterschaft Exhaust

Okay, so I got my M6 in April and almost immediately purchased the Eisenmann Race exhaust.

A little history.

In 2011, I purchased a new (at the time) 550i. Then, purchased Eisenmann Race exhaust - only to then purchase Meisterschaft a year later.

This time around, I think I'm doing the exact same thing.

The Eisenman Race is a top-notch exhaust. Nothing wrong with it from a quality standpoint. However, it just doesn't stand out.

So, that's about $9000 in exhaust costs (which means, I could have just purchased the Akrapovič from BMW directly).

I don't seem to learn my lesson.

Now, both of my kids need braces. So, exhaust or straight teeth for my kids? I don't think their teeth are THAT bad.......

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      08-21-2014, 11:53 PM   #2
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Salt in the wound.... I have the Meisterschaft and couldn't be happier with it.
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      08-22-2014, 06:13 AM   #3
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Okay, so I got my M6 in April and almost immediately purchased the Eisenmann Race exhaust.

A little history.

In 2011, I purchased a new (at the time) 500i. Then, purchased Eisenmann Race exhaust - only to then purchase Meisterschaft a year later.

This time around, I think I'm doing the exact same thing.

The Eisenman Race is a top-notch exhaust. Nothing wrong with it from a quality standpoint. However, it just doesn't stand out.

So, that's about $9000 in exhaust costs (which means, I could have just purchased the Akrapovič from BMW directly).

I don't seem to learn my lesson.

Now, both of my kids need braces. So, exhaust or straight teeth for my kids? I don't think their teeth are THAT bad.......
$9000 for a couple of kids braces
Have there teeth out and get the exhaust , you know it makes sense.
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I think your kids would prefer the exhaust as well. I luckily never needed braces but everyone I knew that had them seemed to hate them growing up. So maybe you should just consult with them, they'll give you their approval. You know, progressive parenting and shit, let them make their own decisions, pray that they are right, bla bla.
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Try to avoid braces as long as possible, it's something they can pay for themselves later in life if they deem it necessary. I paid for braces for the first kid and that is it. However, I am sure your exhaust sounds fine and if not, get some catted DPs, don't change exhausts.
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      08-22-2014, 08:24 AM   #6
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I have the Eisenmann Race now wth catless downpipes and it sounds amazing. I get nothing but compliments on how the car sounds.

But... I placed an order for the Meisterchaft a few days ago (w/ black 102mm tips). I just have to hear what the Meisterchaft sounds like. I'll decide which is the best and just sell the one I don't want.

I've heard the Akra has a beautiful sound but I am looking for a more raw, nasty, throaty, angry, pissed off, hulk smash, roid rage type of exhaust. I have a feeling Meisterchaft might be the ticket.

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I've heard the Akra has a beautiful sound but I am looking for a more raw, nasty, throaty, angry, pissed off, hulk smash, roid rage type of exhaust. I have a feeling Meisterchaft might be the ticket.

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Having heard them on an M6 in person I can tell you this is pretty much what you will get.
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I have the Eisenmann Race now wth catless downpipes and it sounds amazing. I get nothing but compliments on how the car sounds.

But... I placed an order for the Meisterchaft a few days ago (w/ black 102mm tips). I just have to hear what the Meisterchaft sounds like. I'll decide which is the best and just sell the one I don't want.

I've heard the Akra has a beautiful sound but I am looking for a more raw, nasty, throaty, angry, pissed off, hulk smash, roid rage type of exhaust. I have a feeling Meisterchaft might be the ticket.

Brian
Do you get a check engine light with the catless downpipes?
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      08-22-2014, 09:33 AM   #9
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I have the Eisenmann Race now wth catless downpipes and it sounds amazing. I get nothing but compliments on how the car sounds.

But... I placed an order for the Meisterchaft a few days ago (w/ black 102mm tips). I just have to hear what the Meisterchaft sounds like. I'll decide which is the best and just sell the one I don't want.

I've heard the Akra has a beautiful sound but I am looking for a more raw, nasty, throaty, angry, pissed off, hulk smash, roid rage type of exhaust. I have a feeling Meisterchaft might be the ticket.

Brian
Meisterschaft will DEFINITELY deliver the raw, nasty sound. I remember, when I had my 550i, a Mustang pulled near me and was revving loudly. I decidedly to give him a sampling of my exhaust. Pretty comical. He was expecting that sound to come from my car.
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Yes, I get the CEL. At first I was so concerned about getting rid of it. I now drive with traction control completely off all the time so my dash is lit up as it is. I do understand you won't know when there is a real problem but if you buy an ODBII scanner just check the car for codes regularly. The sound the exhaust makes with catless DPs gives me goose bumps every time I hammer it. Amazing!

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I heart Meistershaft drones the most, I heard RPI is much better in that term, it is cheaper and sounds very well also, not sure if true
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I havent noticed any drone with the meisterschaft. These cars are so well insulated. Also I dont really see a need for the valve. Went with the GT exhaust which was probabky 1-2k cheaper. Why would you want to mute the exhaust. Let that bitch sing
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I havent noticed any drone with the meisterschaft. These cars are so well insulated. Also I dont really see a need for the valve. Went with the GT exhaust which was probabky 1-2k cheaper. Why would you want to mute the exhaust. Let that bitch sing
Maybe but on my n54 meistershaft was a drone monster, and I heard from bunch of guys on that too, I hope it's not the case
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I havent noticed any drone with the meisterschaft. These cars are so well insulated. Also I dont really see a need for the valve. Went with the GT exhaust which was probabky 1-2k cheaper. Why would you want to mute the exhaust. Let that bitch sing
+1 no idea why you would want a valve. I guess if your Wife and kiddos don't like the noise you can mute it down. But as you said with the windows up the car is so well insulated you can't hear a whole lot.

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My 550 stage 5 with Meisterschaft full exhaust had the best sound... it was deep, throaty and monstrous. loved it. Plus the guys at GTHaus were always helpful and on point with customer service.

I had the eisenman race oval tip on my M6 at first but I felt it sounded like a ricer and I couldn't stand the drone.
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Maybe but on my n54 meistershaft was a drone monster, and I heard from bunch of guys on that too, I hope it's not the case
On my 550, I had drone between 1600-2000 RPM. Driving on the highway in sport mode seemed to help a bit.
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+1 no idea why you would want a valve. I guess if your Wife and kiddos don't like the noise you can mute it down. But as you said with the windows up the car is so well insulated you can't hear a whole lot.

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If I buy it again, I'll be skipping the valve option. Never really used it. Plus, it eventually stopped working on the right side, so....I couldn't use it even if I needed to.
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I have the Meistershaft w black 102mm tips and the LXR midpipes. I also did the wireless valve control to keep the wife happy. I absolutely LOVE it and people tell me that when my car comes rolling down, even in 1st gear, it just sounds nasty. On the other hand, I also have the full RPi system in my E60 M5 and love that too, but it's a completely different engine and nothing will ever sound as good as the V10, so that's not a good comparison. LOL! Anyway, I am thrilled with my Meistershaft system and the compliments I keep getting are insane. The funny part is, you don't really hear it as much when you're driving, but I guess that's a good thing. Hahaha!
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I have the Meistershaft w black 102mm tips and the LXR midpipes. I also did the wireless valve control to keep the wife happy. I absolutely LOVE it and people tell me that when my car comes rolling down, even in 1st gear, it just sounds nasty. On the other hand, I also have the full RPi system in my E60 M5 and love that too, but it's a completely different engine and nothing will ever sound as good as the V10, so that's not a good comparison. LOL! Anyway, I am thrilled with my Meistershaft system and the compliments I keep getting are insane. The funny part is, you don't really hear it as much when you're driving, but I guess that's a good thing. Hahaha!
Sound insulation in our cars is just overdone. Can't seem to hear much of my Akra in the car but seeing videos people have taken of my car as I drive by it actually sounds great.
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I have the Meistershaft w black 102mm tips and the LXR midpipes. I also did the wireless valve control to keep the wife happy. I absolutely LOVE it and people tell me that when my car comes rolling down, even in 1st gear, it just sounds nasty. On the other hand, I also have the full RPi system in my E60 M5 and love that too, but it's a completely different engine and nothing will ever sound as good as the V10, so that's not a good comparison. LOL! Anyway, I am thrilled with my Meistershaft system and the compliments I keep getting are insane. The funny part is, you don't really hear it as much when you're driving, but I guess that's a good thing. Hahaha!
So drone is not an issue ? Honestly ? RPI's are much cheaper, I wonder if it drones on s63
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Sound insulation in our cars is just overdone. Can't seem to hear much of my Akra in the car but seeing videos people have taken of my car as I drive by it actually sounds great.
I hear you on that for sure... downpipes took care of that for me but yes much louder from the outside.
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Whats your thoughts on the LXR pipe. Been thinking about just adding that instead of downpipes. Is there a big increase in sound from just the cat back by itself?
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