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Max speaks (pronunciation is Dutch definitely not Flemmish), acts (directly) and behaves (cocky) like a typical Dutch guy. Fuck the passport or place of birth arguments. And I've said it before, no way the Orange army would ever show up for a Belgian.
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![]() As you know Red Bull is running behind the facts by the lack of power ! MAX is running beyond the limits with less...nonetheless sometimes he can split the Mercs with less or win a race with less ! Can't see anyone doing this in this season , by the overall Benz dominance ? He ran every race in this season on the podium with less , disregarded his 2 DNF . RIC ? He slammed his fist through the motorhomes wall , because he couldn't stand it anymore to be the second RB driver .. MAX could see RIC's fist in his room coming out from his side of the wall . RIC had hurted his bleeding fist pretty badly ! Because MAX's performance was outstanding . MAX was able to win races ! And finally RIC walked with his cheese smile at Renault... Because he lost it from a kid born in Belgium ! Even Bottas with his grandma's racecraft is sometimes faster than the GOAT ! Because Bottas is driving a Benz as well ....In the RB16 he would be nowhere and out of sight ! "Advantages" that's where the Mercs run with mate ! AMEN !
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Onnodig te zeggen dat papa Jos Hollands is ... MAX was 90% van zijn tijd met papa Jos , dag en nacht op de circuits . Daarom is het ook logisch dat MAX "meestal" met een Hollands accent spreekt . Ik weet echter niet dat je hiervan op de hoogte bent ? Als MAX met zijn Belgische mama Sofie-Kumpen is , dat spreekt MAX met een perfect Vlaams (Hasselts) Belgisch accent ! Mijn vriend , als je geboren bent in Holland dan ben je een Hollander . Als je geboren bent in Belgie , dan ben je een Belg net zoals MAX eigenlijk is met een Belgisch paspoort en een Belgisch rijbewijs ! Laten we alvast hopen , dat hij volgende zondag kan winnen als het tenminste eindelijk zou willen gaan regenen ... Zoals u al zei , is dit eigenlijk een stomme belachelijke dicussie .
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En helemaal eens, hopelijk gaat hij nog een paar races winnen dit jaar ![]() We sluiten hier deze discussie!
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![]() The thing with Fangio, Moss, Ascari, Stewart, Clark etc is that probably none of us have actually witnessed these guys race. My point of reference is late 80s when I started watching as a kid.
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The other thing with Fangio is that the reason he won in 4 different cars is that he would only drive for the team with the fastest car. Not diminishing his accomplishment...just providing context.
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The thing is, I think the list changes depending on the car. I honestly believe that Hamilton could not outdrive Clark in a car of Clark's era, regardless of how many years Hamilton practiced. I think you have to be bred to it. I think it comes from early childhood, just as much as it comes from genetics. Those old cars took a certain type of nut to drive, and I'm not sure we have many of those around anymore. Senna, for all his brilliance, was a bit of a throwback because he was a nut as well. This is the main reason I put Senna in the top 3 spots; he had it all, impossible car feeling/control, talent, work ethic, and that x-factor where he'd put it all on the line for a win (good or bad.). |
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To start with, the cars of Clarks era were by comparison to modern F1 a simple car to drive...with no downforce and low grip there was plenty of feel for a skilled driver to exploit A modern F1 car with high downforce and ultra sticky wide tyres are a far more difficult car to drive at the limit. As for Senna vrs Hamilton - its always just a personal opinion - I see the same skills in Hamilton as I did in Senna. Never more starkly demonstrated by Hamiltons rookie year in F1...just exceptional. |
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Modern F1 cars practically drive themselves, you need only super quick reflexes and to keep the speed up (to keep the heat in the tires). The older cars took real balls to drive, something I question in the new breed. |
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He was the best of the world ! That's what MAX showed on the kart circuits . Money helped but actually that doesn't matter . The driver has to show his driver skills to get in the worlds spot lights .. That's what MAX actually did .. But Jos's influence was nowhere in the F1 . Some slimy talk has no influence in the todays F1 ! It's what you can show to the F1 teams, and that's all about drivers performances . RIC ? Mate are you serious ? RIC had already 6 years of driver experience in the F1 and drove the Red Bull actually already blindfolded ! While MAX drove his first races without drivers license , age 17 ! In F1 terms that's like a grandpa vs a kid ! Anyway , RIC felt it was time to leave and walked because the kid was after a few races suddenly faster ! If RIC was stayed at Red Bull . MAX would have brought him down completely , and RIC's market value would be worth nothing anymore ... So , RIC's escape plan worked really well ...
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And roll the excuses B-roll. Always the same story. Exactly why so many here are tired of this BS
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Anyone thinking that it is easy to drive a modern F1 car has zero idea about modern Formula One. Here is a quick comparison.
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Again, using your fingers to drive. The old guys used ONE HAND and shifted the cars. I'm not saying that the new cars can be driven by monkeys, I'm just saying it's a different skillset. |
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These are directly analogous. Hamilton could drive an older car just as Senna could drive a newer one. I believe that there could be a technical gulf back to Clark's era but I'm not certain. On your part about the cars wearing you out: The drivers are pulling 4-6 Gs on a constant basis. Formula One drivers are exposed to more "G" than any other humans on the planet. More than fighter pilots. More than astronauts. To say that an older car would wear these drivers out who are infinitely more fit and scientifically trained and managed is a bit naive.
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