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What do you think of the 8 GC?

What do you like or dislike?

I love the new tech but the design doesn't do much from my current F06.
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      06-14-2019, 01:05 PM   #2
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What do you like or dislike?

I love the new tech but the design doesn't do much from my current F06.
Think the 6 GC looks better.
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      06-14-2019, 01:39 PM   #3
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So far, having only seen pics, I like the 6GC better. This looks like a 5-6-7 Frankenstein project that resembles a Panamera, which I do not like. I love the interior, though and will withhold judgement until I can see one in the flesh - as it were.
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      06-14-2019, 01:44 PM   #4
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I've seen the test mule in person. Some angles look quite good, but somehow I see 4 series GC in the roof line and height. Doesn't look as sleek to me as the F06. But agreed, the tech is great and it sounds much better than the F06 650s.
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      06-14-2019, 02:09 PM   #5
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      06-14-2019, 02:28 PM   #6
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Yeah I could see it being on the replacement list. I get the 4gc reference. I line the shoulder of the rear wheel arches, less a fan of the roof line to the boot. Looks a bit A7/A5 Salon.
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      06-14-2019, 02:55 PM   #7
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I love it and can't wait to get one! Waiting for the M8 GC.
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      06-14-2019, 03:12 PM   #8
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Think the 6 GC looks better.
Yep, for now. I have to see it in reality.
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So far, having only seen pics, I like the 6GC better. This looks like a 5-6-7 Frankenstein project that resembles a Panamera, which I do not like. I love the interior, though and will withhold judgement until I can see one in the flesh - as it were.
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Yeah I could see it being on the replacement list. I get the 4gc reference. I line the shoulder of the rear wheel arches, less a fan of the roof line to the boot. Looks a bit A7/A5 Salon.
Yeah it is too close to Audi.
Up to now the 6GC looks much nicer. I was waiting for the 8GC but the Coupé looks great.
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      06-14-2019, 04:17 PM   #9
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      06-14-2019, 06:10 PM   #10
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Am I glad I drive a 6GC.
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      06-14-2019, 07:39 PM   #12
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      06-14-2019, 07:46 PM   #13
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The f06/f12/f13 6 series stands on its own...wouldn't have bought one if I didn't think it was all that.

But I can see the evolutionary design that went into the new 8GC. It probably would have been the next gen 6 series if BMW hadn't killed it off. There are some things that are "meh" like the absence of the Hofmeister kink, the all digital instrument cluster (heck, I don't even like the 6WB on the f06/f12/f13...it reminds me of the 1980s) and all the air scoops (are the fake or real?)...and the exhaust openings don't light my fire either (make them a real exhaust tip instead of a cosmetic "ring" around round exhaust pipes that are visible a few inches inward).

But Y'ALL...they have 2 sunroof panels...and surely at LEAST one of them has to open, right?

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      06-14-2019, 08:44 PM   #14
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It's certainly a high-end car, and I won't say it's ugly (it's not)... but does it look as good as the 6GC? No, no it doesn't.

Front:

The front is aggressive, and the slim headlights certainly add to that appearance. But the 6's swept back, larger lights still look more unique to me. Likewise, I really love the shark-nose styling on the 6 - protruding and pushing the front grille out and low. That's been lost on the 8 - a real shame. I'm also not a fan of the new angular grille design. The concept looked fantastic, but this watered down version is just meh.

Side:

Again, it's OK, but it lost the elegance of the 6GC. Where, exactly? Well, the 6 just has a beautiful, clean shoulder line that goes down the side of the car. The 8GC loses this.

The "fastback" roofline is also unappealing to me. Yes, this is what gives the coupe a resemblance to a Ford Mustang, and it's what's giving the GC resemblance to an A7. The rear decklid is almost non-existent and makes it appear like a hatchback. It technically has a conventional trunk, but it's heavily sloped downward toward the rear, which to me is just not an appealing design element.

Rear Quarter:

One of the neatest things on the 6GC design is just how heavily raked the "tumblehome" is towards the rear. Said another way, the wide hips on the car are heavily tapered up towards the roofline through steeply raked side glass. It looks very sporty, accentuating the width of the car at the shoulder but aggressively tapering up towards the roofline. The 8GC completely loses this design element, and the shot above of the man looking down the length of the car emphasizes how "normal" the angle is on the 8GC's tumblehome.

Rear:

The rear is aggressive. I don't necessarily have any problems with it. The duck tail is a bit much, though, and therefore it loses a bit of the 6's elegance.

Interior:

The interior looks top-notch. It's oozing premium finishes. Having not seen it in person, and only commenting on the pictures, I'd say the seating surfaces look to be a definite upgrade. However, the dash design is not as striking. The asymmetrical waterfall dash, strewn with leather, on the 6 is more unique to me. Likewise, the 6's unique door-to-dash design, which goes from 3D to flat once up to front of the dash is also much more unique. Overall, the 8's interior looks very premium as far as materials go, but the design feels a bit less inspired.

Verdict?

I like the 6GC considerably more. It's a more fluid, elegant, and unique design. I think BMW really went ALL out on the 6GC as this was their first "Gran Coupe," and being late to the premium 4-door coupe market at the time, they had to make real big splash. They did so. The 8GC looks like a natural evolution, but it's missing some of the beauty that made the 6GC a must-own car for me.

I'll probably be passing on the 8. If I did ever buy one, it might actually be the coupe. With the 6, I always felt the GC was the better looking of the two. With the 8, I think we may have flip-flopped back to the coupe as the better design.
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I like the coupe but it closely resembles the new Mustang.
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The f06/f12/f13 6 series stands on its own...wouldn't have bought one if I didn't think it was all that.

But I can see the evolutionary design that went into the new 8GC. It probably would have been the next gen 6 series if BMW hadn't killed it off. There are some things that are "meh" like the absence of the Hofmeister kink, the all digital instrument cluster (heck, I don't even like the 6WB on the f06/f12/f13...it reminds me of the 1980s) and all the air scoops (are the fake or real?)...and the exhaust openings don't light my fire either (make them a real exhaust tip instead of a cosmetic "ring" around round exhaust pipes that are visible a few inches inward).

But Y'ALL...they have 2 sunroof panels...and surely at LEAST one of them has to open, right?

That was funny! Hope the sunroof opens too on the 8... :
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IMO, the 8'er looks as though a 4 and a 6 had a love child.
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It's certainly a high-end car, and I won't say it's ugly (it's not)... but does it look as good as the 6GC? No, no it doesn't.

I'll probably be passing on the 8. If I did ever buy one, it might actually be the coupe. With the 6, I always felt the GC was the better looking of the two. With the 8, I think we may have flip-flopped back to the coupe as the better design.
Agree. But doesn't the rear look like the second gen Chrysler 200? The rear spoiler is virtually exactly the same. The rear shoulders are the same. The rear quarter windows are similar. The rear fastback slope is the same. Taillights are upside down but very similar. That's not all that bad as the 200 was actually a well designed car, but the 8 series should not look like a 200 or a Mustang!



Getting rid of the Hofmeister Kink is just dumb. Totally goes against BMW tradition and doesn't look good or aggressive. Looks like a Lexus now from the side.

While the 8 looks more modern, the 6GC will endure the test of time. By far, the BEST sedan design in modern car history.

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Even the Chrysler 200 has a Hofmeister Kink!

And the rims are nicer.

Lazy, lazy, lazy BMW styling on the 8GC.
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Agree. But doesn't the rear look like the second gen Chrysler 200? The rear spoiler is virtually exactly the same. The rear shoulders are the same. The rear quarter windows are similar. The rear fastback slope is the same. Taillights are upside down but very similar. That's not all that bad as the 200 was actually a well designed car, but the 8 series should not look like a 200 or a Mustang!



Getting rid of the Hofmeister Kink is just dumb. Totally goes against BMW tradition and doesn't look good or aggressive. Looks like a Lexus now from the side.

While the 8 looks more modern, the 6GC will endure the test of time. By far, the BEST sedan design in modern car history.
You're absolutely right.

Everything you've pointed out is accurate, and I feel the same way - Lexus, Chrysler, Ford Mustang... not the influences I'd expect or want for the 8GC.

If you put these pics side by side with a 6GC, there's no comparison - the 6GC is just a much more elegant and fluid looking design. I really don't like the rear window, shoulder, and deck lid on the 8GC - partly for the reasons you called out, and partly because these were some of the best looking areas on the 6GC, making them harder to swallow here.

But this does sometimes happen - not all redesigns are successful, especially where the original design was SO good. I feel the same with my R8. I absolutely fell in love with the Gen-1 when it came on the market, and I pulled the trigger to finally order one in 2014 for the final model year when I saw the Gen-2 redesign - it just lost so much of what made the original a beautiful looking car to me. Very much like the 8 vs. 6, the Gen-2 R8 got more aggressive looking, but it lost a lot of the cohesiveness, curves, and beauty.

A good design often doesn't need a lot of lines, creases, vents, folds, etc. The best designs are often very simple and purposeful. I think the 6GC is one of BMW's most beautiful of the last 20 years... part of the reason I feel like I have a real dilemma on my hands in terms of what I'd replace it with! Had they made the 8 coupe close to the actual concept, that would have been a real contender. But the watered down version they gave us with that mustang fastback roof just doesn't do it for me.
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Ditto...that was the first thing I thought when I saw this pic. And the second thought was...these would be great rear seats for a Mustang Cobra.

All those not inspired by the 8GC...there's always hope that the LCI (facelift) will fix some of the things that are turning us away (or off) of this design. BMW did do better with the e65/e66 LCI's rear end...it was way more palatable than the original Bangle Butt.
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All those not inspired by the 8GC...there's always hope that the LCI (facelift) will fix some of the things that are turning us away (or off) of this design. BMW did do better with the e65/e66 LCI's rear end...it was way more palatable than the original Bangle Butt.
I don't think an LCI will fix the "bones" of this car, because it would then be a completely new car with new tooling, etc. The Hofmeister kink is gone, LCI won't fix that. The interior is too geometric and simple (nice finishes though), LCI won't fix that. The waterfall interior of the 6 series was classic and timeless.

The fundamental design is generic and trendy. The vents are too much and very "ricer". Unfortunately, this is the direction BMW and other manufacturers are going. They have Millennials and soon, Gen Z designers. They are into these trendy, homogeneous designs. My next car will probably be another 6 series (4th one). I'm so lucky to have a 6-spd manual F12. There will never be a car like that again. How sad.
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