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      09-14-2021, 11:24 AM   #23
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My first car was a Volvo 240GL, it was a hand me down from my mom. Can't help it, but I have a soft spot for them too. She has a new XC60, believe it or not, its a great little SUV.
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Ferrari is the only exotic manufacturer I feel an emotional draw to, but they are mostly out of reach. Maybe I'll be able to buy a used one someday.
I'm not rich by any means, but I've made it a life goal to one day own a Ferrari.

The way Ferrari works, you likely won't be able to buy a new one anyway even if you had the money. They more or less force you to look at the used car market before they "allow" you to buy a new one.

Right now I'm contributing $650/month towards a brokerage account meant specifically for that eventual Ferrari. Obviously we don't know what the car world will look like in 10 years, so I'm flexible, but that's my dream...
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      09-14-2021, 02:25 PM   #25
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I'm not rich by any means, but I've made it a life goal to one day own a Ferrari.

The way Ferrari works, you likely won't be able to buy a new one anyway even if you had the money. They more or less force you to look at the used car market before they "allow" you to buy a new one.

Right now I'm contributing $650/month towards a brokerage account meant specifically for that eventual Ferrari. Obviously we don't know what the car world will look like in 10 years, so I'm flexible, but that's my dream...
depends on what ferrari you want. if you want a roma, F8, or portofino the dealer can accommodate you pretty easily. these are regular production cars. walk in, order, and wait 12-18 months.

the limited and new 'hot cars' are different. if you want a 812GTS right now you probably can't get one unless you are a VIP client.
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depends on what ferrari you want. if you want a roma, F8, or portofino the dealer can accommodate you pretty easily. these are regular production cars. walk in, order, and wait 12-18 months.

the limited and new 'hot cars' are different. if you want a 812GTS right now you probably can't get one unless you are a VIP client.
I'm obviously not an expert on this, but I recall reading somewhere that for new Ferrari's, even standard production cars, there was a list of requirements you had to hit before they'd allow you to purchase a new one. One of them being able to produce an ownership history. Is that not the case?
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I'm obviously not an expert on this, but I recall reading somewhere that for new Ferrari's, even standard production cars, there was a list of requirements you had to hit before they'd allow you to purchase a new one. One of them being able to produce an ownership history. Is that not the case?
on brand new hot items sometimes they will make you jump through hoops since demand outweighs supply. like when the F8 or F8 spider first got announced. but now that they've been out a while the demand has fizzled so you can just walk in and order.

the ownership history thing and selection process only comes into play with the very rare limited stuff like the TDF, Pista, or LaFerrari.
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My sister has a Challenger SRT with a 6.4 hemi that will be mine. Yes all mine brahahahahaha....

When she sells it. Its a 2012 with only 19k miles, hemi orange. God its fun to drive. So that's my next direction. She only drives it a couple times a year, its pristine.
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Mercedes and Porsche are probably my favorites, I appreciate both of them from a historical and current perspective with their cars as well as I really like their lineups.

Alfa Romeo also definitely gets a spot on my list, one of the first Sport Sedan manufacturers and most skilled, their current Giulia and Stelvio are just fantastic vehicles.

From the mainstream section the only brand I really love is Mazda. They are such an underdog in the industry and vastly overlooked and underrated, especially when manufacturers such as Subaru who in my opinion don't produce anything of greatness get so much undeserved love and support. Mazda makes vehicles that are fun to drive, stylish, surprisingly luxurious for their class, as well as well built and reliable. I really hope people start to pay more attention to them.
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Porsche for sure. Amazing brand with its own heritage and passionate following. Its truly the "driver's car" in the world of premium/exotic cars.
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Porsche for obvious reasons.

For non-premium brands, Ford for being the only domestic brand even trying to innovate, even if they do fail sometimes.
I agree with you. Being a 3-series owner for decades, the BMWs I own really aren't "premium". I'm not really a badge whore. But if I had to start over to replace the fleet, a Mustang GT convertible, a Mustang Mach E, and the New Bronco would fill the bill easily. All 3 cars are more interesting to me than anything in BMW's pasture. I have a Bronco on order.
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Mercedes and Porsche are probably my favorites, I appreciate both of them from a historical and current perspective with their cars as well as I really like their lineups.

Alfa Romeo also definitely gets a spot on my list, one of the first Sport Sedan manufacturers and most skilled, their current Giulia and Stelvio are just fantastic vehicles.

From the mainstream section the only brand I really love their is Mazda. They are such an underdog in the industry and vastly overlooked and underrated, especially when manufacturers such as Subaru who in my opinion don't produce anything of greatness get so much undeserved love and support. Mazda makes vehicles that are fun to drive, stylish, surprisingly luxurious for their class, as well as well built and reliable. I really hope people start to pay more attention to them.
Last Nov/Dec we were shopping for a compact SUV and we ended up driving all the sporty ones - including the Macan GTS, and Alfa Stelvio QF. The Stelvio was just so beautiful to look at and drive. Left quite an impression. My wife, however, wanted to go electric and we ended up with a Tesla MY Performance. LOL. Alfa's are probably very underrated in the US, much like Mazda's.
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Mercedes and Porsche are probably my favorites, I appreciate both of them from a historical and current perspective with their cars as well as I really like their lineups.

Alfa Romeo also definitely gets a spot on my list, one of the first Sport Sedan manufacturers and most skilled, their current Giulia and Stelvio are just fantastic vehicles.

From the mainstream section the only brand I really love their is Mazda. They are such an underdog in the industry and vastly overlooked and underrated, especially when manufacturers such as Subaru who in my opinion don't produce anything of greatness get so much undeserved love and support. Mazda makes vehicles that are fun to drive, stylish, surprisingly luxurious for their class, as well as well built and reliable. I really hope people start to pay more attention to them.
Last Nov/Dec we were shopping for a compact SUV and we ended up driving all the sporty ones - including the Macan GTS, and Alfa Stelvio QF. The Stelvio was just so beautiful to look at and drive. Left quite an impression. My wife, however, wanted to go electric and we ended up with a Tesla MY Performance. LOL. Alfa's are probably very underrated in the US, much like Mazda's.
They very much are, of course their reputation was also shattered years ago when it comes to reliability to which they haven't recovered but Stellantis does provide a healthy backbone to support them, and also the 2.0 models are fairly decent for reliability. In the end I think Maserati will probably have a better chance than Alfa at US survival mainly because the brand cache and image is stronger. Sadly people don't want a sporty handling sedan or suv, which is what Alfa prioritizes over gimmicky tech and features.
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Three of my last 4 cars have been Porsche so I guess I have a soft spot for them. Nothing really handles like a Carrera. The Boxster has better handling but I prefer the size of Carrera.
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Last Nov/Dec we were shopping for a compact SUV and we ended up driving all the sporty ones - including the Macan GTS, and Alfa Stelvio QF. The Stelvio was just so beautiful to look at and drive. Left quite an impression. My wife, however, wanted to go electric and we ended up with a Tesla MY Performance. LOL. Alfa's are probably very underrated in the US, much like Mazda's.
Lol Stelvio QV and Model Y are like polar opposites. I wish your wife wanted the Stelvio but congrats on the purchase.

Model Y has its advantages for sure; but the Stelvio QV simply sounds beautiful, is covered in leather, and stands out more in a crowd.
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The GTR for sure. Have had it for 8 years now. Started out stock, then FBO, now 1K WHP plus. Extremely reliable and very capable with a big trunk that you can go shopping with and toss in luggage for a long vacation.
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I don't know why I never really got into Mercs. I love brands with pedigree and history, Mercedes is full of that. Something about their styling and driving character never resonated with me. Their golden age with models the W126, W140, R107 etc were before my time. Growing up Mercs tended to feel cheaply built and now they make way too many watered down models that are far too common.

I'd certainly like to own a Mercedes at some point, but it will likely be a classic. Maybe a W126 or R107. My buddy had an 86 500SL in red on palomino with chrome-plated wheels and it was beautiful. Classic Mercedes bank vault doors and proper old money look.
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Mercedes and Porsche are probably my favorites, I appreciate both of them from a historical and current perspective with their cars as well as I really like their lineups.
I don't know why I never really got into Mercs. I love brands with pedigree and history, Mercedes is full of that. Something about their styling and driving character never resonated with me. Their golden age with models the W126, W140, R107 etc were before my time. Growing up Mercs tended to feel cheaply built and now they make way too many watered down models that are far too common.

I'd certainly like to own a Mercedes at some point, but it will likely be a classic. Maybe a W126 or R107. My buddy had an 86 500SL in red on palomino with chrome-plated wheels and it was beautiful. Classic Mercedes bank vault doors and proper old money look.
My aunt and uncle were the black sheeps of our BMW only family and had numerous different MB's, mainly E and S-Class' (although they weren't called that back in the day). They had everything from the W126 to W123's, W124's and even still have MB's today. The classics are definitely cool and represent a different era, when MB's were more prestigious and for the rich, but sadly if they were to keep building cars like that they would have been non-existant as the W140 and rise of the Japanese (Lexus) caused significant financial problems to which only the dreadful Daimler-Chrysler era could have solved.

I have a friend who has got over 200,000 miles on his 82 380SL. Its been a bit battered and bruised by previous owners but he's hoping to restore it to its former glory. My goal now is definitely to get an AMG V8 of some sort before its gone.
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I'm what you would call a bit of a brand whore jumping all over the map from Suzuki, Chrysler, BMW, Toyota, Honda, VAG, etc. Going back to the 90's there are plenty of automotive forums where I've posted under the same name or close variation of "heavyD". Only somewhat attainable brands I haven't owned is Mercedes, anything British or Swedish and the only mainstream brand I haven't owned is a Nissan or Hyunda/Kia. I always felt that people that stuck to a single brand or two deprived themselves of some really cool vehicles from other manufacturers. There are definitely a lot of brands I won't go back to but I don't know if I have a favorite as I like cars more than brands. Would love to get into a Porsche one day but it's not the right time for me (if there will ever be).
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Last Nov/Dec we were shopping for a compact SUV and we ended up driving all the sporty ones - including the Macan GTS, and Alfa Stelvio QF. The Stelvio was just so beautiful to look at and drive. Left quite an impression. My wife, however, wanted to go electric and we ended up with a Tesla MY Performance. LOL. Alfa's are probably very underrated in the US, much like Mazda's.
Lol Stelvio QV and Model Y are like polar opposites. I wish your wife wanted the Stelvio but congrats on the purchase.

Model Y has its advantages for sure; but the Stelvio QV simply sounds beautiful, is covered in leather, and stands out more in a crowd.
I agree. The Stelvio was memorable and would be an amazing daily driver. I honestly didn't think I'd like the Stelvio over the Macan, but I did. Personally, I would not have got the MY over either, but it was my wife's turn to pick the new car 😊
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