Next BMW 2-Series 4-Door. Gran Coupe or Gran Turismo?

[marcva]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

A 2 series gran coupe would be the size of an e36 or e46 sedan. You don't think people want that ?

+1

A 330 hp 3300/3400 lb sedan...I'd call that a 4 dr e46 m3.
I know in a freak left in my e36 m345, but a gc or at least a sedan would lure me out. An m variant with 370 hp would probably be my ED---->"cold dead hands" car. Though I'm sure hybrid tech will make some amazing cars in the coming decade...see porsche 918 and i8 as precursors.

Marc
E36 332I (us m345)
Vienna, va, usa

[marcva]

Some of the 4 door renders done last year in white looked pretty good. If I wasn't on my phone instead of a pc, I would dig up the images.

Marc

[gvega702]

2 series Grand Coupe with a hatch back that's sexy like the 4GC would be my next car. Give me an inline 6, RWD and an M version and I would buy it!

[B.a.f]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

Leave the hatch back for the 1 series. The 2 series needs 4 doors. Keep it simple BMW.

+1
Odd numbers GT, even numbers GC

[gvega702]

Why can BMW not do both. They did it with the 5/6 3/4 why not the 2 series? All versions coupe, sedan, and Grand Coupe

[cncmastr]

5 door please, manual.

[TheBingoBalls]

A lot of people dislike the 4-door coupe concept but I think BMW absolutely nailed it with 4er and 6er Gran Coupe and I would have no doubt that a 2er Gran Coupe will follow and really do hope it becomes official over a Gran Turismo.

[Falafel Combo]

If they put an inline 6 in this bad boy, and offer RWD+6MT, this will be my next BMW. No doubt in my mind.

[TunedM2C]

GC

[ShocknAwe]

Go straight up hatchback, or hot estate.

[PopsnBurbles]

Those tail lights should've been on the 2 series unlike the poor attempt at modernizing the E82 tail lights. To be honest, it's pretty hard to build on the E82 tail lights (not because it's beautiful/fugly).

On topic: I miss the days when there weren't GC's, GT's, etc. If one must be made though, keep the 5 door thing with the 1er's.

[ynguldyn]

Scott, you spooked the crowd when you uttered "GT". With "5door", you didn't really mean the 3GT or 5GT shape, but rather the 4GC shape. Right? Right?

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The only decision to be made on the next 2er is to go forward with a four door Gran Coupe as expected in the segment?
Or offer further practicality with a five dr Gran Coupe?

Now THAT looks great...and keep it a 4 door, not a 5.

Do the 5 door hatch with the 1er, not the 2er

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by AKRAPOVICOWNS

Sounds promising..really hope for a M2 GC for the next gen 2er.

As things are going, I expect the next 2er to borrow heavy cues from the upcoming 1er sedan? The same way the 3/4, X5/6, X3/4..are almost exactly the same except for proportions. Hope the next 6er dont look exactly the same as the 5 though, it would take away its exclusivity and sportier stance.

what's a 1er sedan?

[Cope]

I would prefer a proper 5dr hatch, not some GT filth.

[marcva]

A proper execution could be almost reminiscent of the alfa gtv...make the nose fiber and chisel the tail. The current 3er gt seems a little rounded in back. Like the designers weren't sure what they wanted

[IEDEI]

BMW totally LOST this game.

the A3 and CLA are selling by the bucketloads....and all the US market gets is an entirely underwhelming 2-series coupe and convertible.....

BMW USA should have pushed to AT LEAST bring the 1er 5-door hatchback to the US market....it would have done fine in the current climate of people preferring SUVs and Hatches.......

So this 'next generation' 2er.....will probably be too little too late.....and if it's FWD? forget it!!

[ZilberGrau ZHP]

Originally Posted by LDSM

With every gran coupe. 4 gc and 6 gc. Most people think they look amazing!

In contrast with every gran turismo, 3gc and 5gc, most people think they look disgusting.

I really Love my GC- I think it looks cooler than a Panamera (not as good mind you but damn nice and 30-50k less - The next GC could be the best in its segment.

[ZilberGrau ZHP]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

BMW totally LOST this game.

the A3 and CLA are selling by the bucketloads....and all the US market gets is an entirely underwhelming 2-series coupe and convertible.....

BMW USA should have pushed to AT LEAST bring the 1er 5-door hatchback to the US market....it would have done fine in the current climate of people preferring SUVs and Hatches.......

So this 'next generation' 2er.....will probably be too little too late.....and if it's FWD? forget it!!

BMW is no doubt behind and stumbled on this- but they havent lost it by a long shot. First of all the M235 is anything but underwhelming. Just a perfect car in almost every resepct. Excellent small size makes it drive like a "proper" BMW- my 4 series GC is an executive sport coupe by comparison built more for luxury (but the wind Noise on the 3/4 series MUST be rectified) But I digress. The Other two have sold well but BMW will split those sales when the 4 door 2er arrives. And I think they will have some tuned for low price and then probably a ZHP version and then when the big kahuna hits- the M2 will kill the really unrefined- I have driven it - fast but by no means the be all end all) AMG CLA. Audi has no such car at this time. There are big huge plans for the 2 and i think, not being a fan boy- I have a lot of bitches with BMWs (hello POS NAV system), will ultimately rule the segment.

[Imola.ZHP]

Electric

[challer]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The only decision to be made on the next 2er is to go forward with a four door Gran Coupe as expected in the segment?
Or offer further practicality with a five dr Gran Coupe?

Give us a BMW M2 GC that is eligible for the BMW Individual Program. I would trade one in each model refresh for the next 20 years without question.

[ZilberGrau ZHP]

Originally Posted by challer

Give us a BMW M2 GC that is eligible for the BMW Individual Program. I would trade one in each model refresh for the next 20 years without question.

Yezzir