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      03-16-2024, 03:12 PM   #23
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Always makes me chuckle when people see one grainy picture and are up in arms about how terrible it looks..

Why not withhold judgement until at least a few more photos are released? I’m willing to bet at least a few of the detractors will be future owners.
Maybe it’s because we’ve ’reserved judgement’ many times before, only to be disappointed. I have 0 faith in their designers at this point. I’m waiting to be pleasantly surprised but I’ve learnt not to get my hopes up.
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      03-16-2024, 03:23 PM   #25
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love EV as long as it's not a sports car
for a daily would love EV or truck
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Best thing is that these prototypes look nothing like the actual vehicle when it comes out.
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      03-16-2024, 03:32 PM   #27
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Oh come on man . We’re car guys, we love new stuff, but this… it’s tasteless and tacky. Anyone can create ‘new’. Just because we’re not lapping it up like hypnotised fanboys doesn’t mean we’re sad and depressed. There are other manufactures out there hitting all the right notes lately - Porsche and Hyundai immediately come to mind. BMW are not on that list currently (IMO).
I mean does it really take much design knowledge to design a Porsche ? They haven’t veered much from the original design. The 911 looks pretty my the same except longer. The Macan and Cayenne r elongated versions of each other. Same with this Tayan and Panamera. Porsche designs r really boring and not any different.
As far as Hyundai, it’s downright insulting. All they do is copy other people’s designs. The Genesis design dept is a joke. They took most of the styling from BMW and put in a Cadillac grill. It’s hilarious that you compare it to them.
The concepts r supposed to look funny and crazy. The real world ones r usually much different than the concept. The Rivian pretty much looks like a concept but it’s been well received. So to each their own. Im glad BMW is going back to the smaller grills of old with the concept.
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Oh come on man . We’re car guys, we love new stuff, but this… it’s tasteless and tacky. Anyone can create ‘new’. Just because we’re not lapping it up like hypnotised fanboys doesn’t mean we’re sad and depressed. There are other manufactures out there hitting all the right notes lately - Porsche and Hyundai immediately come to mind. BMW are not on that list currently (IMO).
The Porsche Taycan Sport/Cross Turismo are arguably the best looking station wagons and the Taycan perhaps the best looking EV in general.
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      03-16-2024, 03:46 PM   #29
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This one has the looks only a mother could love… then again I said that about the IX and ended up getting one …
Shhh. Just blame it on your wife.
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      03-16-2024, 04:19 PM   #30
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The design is a modern interpretation of the OG Neue Klasse from 1962, when BMW's started to become popular and instantly recognizable as a BMW throughout that Era and well into the 1990's

I like it, 👍
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      03-16-2024, 04:35 PM   #32
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I have no issues with EVs other than the insistence on making them look ridiculous lol. Just give me a somewhat regular looking car that runs on a battery and I’m good.
There are plenty of those. They are boring.
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      03-16-2024, 04:42 PM   #33
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First new model where the grille is going to be smaller…..but the lights are larger than any car has ever seen LOL!!!!
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      03-16-2024, 04:51 PM   #34
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Ugly but it atleast looks a lot more cohesive design than the G series cars… so am improvement I guess?
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      03-16-2024, 04:52 PM   #35
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Not bad. It depends how the concept will be evolved.
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      03-16-2024, 04:59 PM   #36
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I have not been a fan of some of the new designs but I have to respect BMW as risk takers. Usually brands die from being too risk averse.
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      03-16-2024, 05:03 PM   #37
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Another wonderful experience with the toxic spouse we call BMW. This is surely a design that could stay in the concept art book. I appreciate minimalism quite a bit in my life, but I am not a fan of the Tesla-esque direction that carmakers are going in these days. Hopefully I’ll live enough for a revival of unique characteristic design choice.
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Jet Jaguar vibe.. That said I don't completely hate it. I don't love it. But could see accepting it. It's better than the 7 or the xm.
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Like every single spy shot ever released and discussed on this site, I think most of these negative reactions are due to the quality of the photo and/or the immature status of the vehicle (prototype, model, not fully built out, etc). Let’s judge when we see the fully prepared press photos.

I think this has a lot of promise. Neue Klasse sedan is tremendous - even better in real life - and I think the language will translate well to SUV proportions too.
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I’m skeptical this will be a massive success for BMW.
1) the iPad approach is disappointing. Perhaps the “screen that will cover the entire bottom of the windshield” will change my mind?
2) ICE and Hybrid, plus drop and replace parallel ICE/BEVs like the i4/5/7 seems to be working fine. This massive leap - is it necessary? I guess we’ll find out.

Drove the iX50 today for the first time - with air suspension and loaded to the gills. It’s a nice vehicle, quick and comfortable - but not sporty and a bit floaty. Didn’t like the seating position or the weird angles on the interior and wasted space - reminiscent of a minivan. I was hoping to love it but didn’t… at all.

IMO the X5 and X7 are more refined and have the right blend of comfort and performance. I’d buy an x5 with a battery pack or an X3 with one before I’d buy an iX.

Perhaps that’s why they are launching the neue klasse. I guess I should give BMW the benefit of the doubt…? Maybe the iX appeals to some other non-sporty buyer, and the neue klasse will appeal to the legacy BMW consumer?
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      03-16-2024, 05:25 PM   #41
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I like it. But I guess someone is gonna be in big trouble for this leak.
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I have not been a fan of some of the new designs but I have to respect BMW as risk takers. Usually brands die from being too risk averse.
It’s like what a Harley-Davidson rider once said to me about the BMW oilhead cruiser R1200C: “It’s ugly, but in their own way. I respect that.” He approved that it wasn’t just another v-twin clone.

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It looks like a plexiglass aquarium, on LSD.
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It doesn’t look that terrible but there’s way too much surface relative to the grille. Will be interesting to see the final design and how it comes together.
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