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      10-28-2022, 05:56 PM   #67
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You constantly go off topic when you have no where to go in your argument dude lol.
What is the topic?

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In the real world, the model s plaid shits on the taycan turbo s everywhere. From a stand still, a roll, 1/4.
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And a full second slower in the 1/4 mile. And it runs 7.7 60-130 lmao Model s plaid does it in 4.x seconds.
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The taycan is dog shit slow in comparison to the model s plaid.
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And the EV hummer is sold out and so is the EV lightning. And are people going to be racing those? Or actually use them for what those cars in ICE form were used for?

People buy EV's for it's simplicity. The perks are instant acceleration, quieter ride, charging at home. Tesla does well in all that, plus their network is great. And at a great price point when you consider all that. When you look at other EV's that are competing with tesla, they fall short in almost everything.
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      10-28-2022, 07:10 PM   #68
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Idk you tell me.

I clicked on this thread initially because i was curious on this 1000hp taycan. Again i'm a porsche fan.

Saw there's not much info about it yet.

Then we use the taycan turbo s, since that's already out, and we compare it to another super ev 4 door. The model s plaid.

Model s plaid is cheaper but also faster in the real world or in every metric of straight line acceleration cars can be measured by.

Then someone mentioned the taycan turbo s is 2 seconds faster than the plaid at the ring. Which is cool. I would hope so. Porsche lives at the ring. Elon introduced the model s to public roads back in like 2012. Fast foward 10 years everyone is trying to catch the plaid in terms of it's acceleration and the it's cost for performance, whether it's EV or even ICE. Porsche has been doing this for DECADES.

Elon? ONE DECADE it took. And everyone is playing catch up.

It's ok though, car makers will catch up i'm sure. The problem with being at the top for so long is that one of these days you get knocked off the top.

So far tesla is still the top.
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Idk you tell me.

I clicked on this thread initially because i was curious on this 1000hp taycan. Again i'm a porsche fan.

Saw there's not much info about it yet.

Then we use the taycan turbo s, since that's already out, and we compare it to another super ev 4 door. The model s plaid.

Model s plaid is cheaper but also faster in the real world or in every metric of straight line acceleration cars can be measured by.

Then someone mentioned the taycan turbo s is 2 seconds faster than the plaid at the ring. Which is cool. I would hope so. Porsche lives at the ring. Elon introduced the model s to public roads back in like 2012. Fast foward 10 years everyone is trying to catch the plaid in terms of it's acceleration and the it's cost for performance, whether it's EV or even ICE. Porsche has been doing this for DECADES.

Elon? ONE DECADE it took. And everyone is playing catch up.

It's ok though, car makers will catch up i'm sure. The problem with being at the top for so long is that one of these days you get knocked off the top.

So far tesla is still the top.
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Idk you tell me.

I clicked on this thread initially because i was curious on this 1000hp taycan. Again i'm a porsche fan.

Saw there's not much info about it yet.

Then we use the taycan turbo s, since that's already out, and we compare it to another super ev 4 door. The model s plaid.

Model s plaid is cheaper but also faster in the real world or in every metric of straight line acceleration cars can be measured by.

Then someone mentioned the taycan turbo s is 2 seconds faster than the plaid at the ring. Which is cool. I would hope so. Porsche lives at the ring. Elon introduced the model s to public roads back in like 2012. Fast foward 10 years everyone is trying to catch the plaid in terms of it's acceleration and the it's cost for performance, whether it's EV or even ICE. Porsche has been doing this for DECADES.

Elon? ONE DECADE it took. And everyone is playing catch up.

It's ok though, car makers will catch up i'm sure. The problem with being at the top for so long is that one of these days you get knocked off the top.

So far tesla is still the top.
Corvette, Tesla... what else? Tell us the exact cars and topics we should avoid mentioning in the future.
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      10-29-2022, 08:45 AM   #71
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Corvette, Tesla... what else? Tell us the exact cars and topics we should avoid mentioning in the future.
Discuss what you want.

Using emotions when posting about it will get those posts destroyed. As I’ve done numerous times already.

Or you can put me on ignore so you can’t read what I type. I already put like 4 people on ignore so I don’t have to read their bullshit. Shooting down posts is easier the less nonsense you have to read.
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Using emotions when posting about it will get those posts destroyed. As I’ve done numerous times already.

Or you can put me on ignore so you can’t read what I type. I already put like 4 people on ignore so I don’t have to read their bullshit. Shooting down posts is easier the less nonsense you have to read.
Shooting down posts with facts?

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tesla is still the top.
The 3rd vehicle in the OP is the Lucid Saphire. We don't have all of it's specs, but we do have some:

Lucid Sapphire is faster then Plaid 0-60. Lucid Sapphire is also faster than the Plaid 0-100, It seems it may be faster than Plaid in the 1/4 mile. It's rated 0.1 seconds slower than Plaid's 1/4 mile rating, but extensive real world testing has shown Teslas claims difficult to trust. Lucid has not demonstrated this tendency to over-state.

It also has a nice interior and tech, but we won't bother with subjective measures, as you clearly don't care.

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Then we use the taycan turbo s, since that's already out, and we compare it to another super ev 4 door. The model s plaid.

Model s plaid is cheaper but also faster in the real world or in every metric of straight line acceleration cars can be measured by.

Then someone mentioned the taycan turbo s is 2 seconds faster than the plaid at the ring
The Plaid is out, the Tycan Turbo S is out. The Taycan is about to get a new model with 25% more power. The lesser Taycan Turbo S that is already out is already faster than the plaid on a track, and not far behind it in other measures. The Plaid is currently faster in a straight line. Cue 25% power boost for the Taycan. That's a large of what the topic was supposed to be about : the already close competition (better in some, worse in others) is about to get a lot more where it currently falls short.

The Plaid is already not the fastest EV by some your cherished measures, and now we may find it in the #3 spot soon.

And yes, we all agree the Plaid is already cheaper than the Taycan, just look at it (inside and out) and you can see why. I think until Tesla makes really nice cars, they will always win on price. Good for them for serving the non-enthusiast and non-luxury market. Lucid and Porsche won't have to worry about tesla fans in their showrooms. Given sales numbers for all 3, there seems to be a market for all of the above. It's likely the Plaid will continue to lead in the bargain shoppers segment for a while.
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      10-29-2022, 12:43 PM   #73
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Lucid air is double the price of the plaid. Tesla still has a better network.

Until lucid air tops that, it’s still inferior to the plaid.

Taycan, again is slower everywhere than the plaid except 2 seconds faster at the ring. A single track thousands of miles away. And the plaid is cheaper. With a better network.

I already said car makers will catch up I’m sure. Said that numerous times. Until then Tesla is still the top of the EV chain.

Those are facts.
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Lucid air is double the price of the plaid. Tesla still has a better network.

Until lucid air tops that, it’s still inferior to the plaid.

Taycan, again is slower everywhere than the plaid except 2 seconds faster at the ring. A single track thousands of miles away. And the plaid is cheaper. With a better network.

I already said car makers will catch up I’m sure. Said that numerous times. Until then Tesla is still the top of the EV chain.

Those are facts.
I hear there is a meth-head at the homeless camp a few miles from my house with a $20 special, and I hear she's the fastest in town too. She is the fastest and cheapest there is, and is available 24 hours a day. Until any woman can beat that, every other woman is inferior. The rest are all playing catchup, and my wife has no hope.

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      10-29-2022, 07:12 PM   #75
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lol just as i thought.

Let me know when your side of the discussion holds any water.
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Guys, it’s a thread about a car that hasn’t been released yet, and that we won’t be able to buy anyway…
Why the animosity over a car you will rarely even see, comparing with cars you won’t even own? This spec sheet racing needs to stop lol
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      10-30-2022, 06:11 AM   #77
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Guys, it’s a thread about a car that hasn’t been released yet, and that we won’t be able to buy anyway…
Why the animosity over a car you will rarely even see, comparing with cars you won’t even own? This spec sheet racing needs to stop lol

I'm sure the car would surprise many when it's finally released. Again i'm a porsche fan so i would hope it does well.

Just stating facts here that's all. It has nothing to do with being a fanboy when you're just relaying the truth.

I was just saying tesla is the leading car maker when it comes to EV technology. That's fact. When it comes to sales figures, cost to purchase, power, simplicity, range, and the network. The totality of all that all belongs to tesla. When one car maker can do one of those things better than tesla, falls short on the rest.

Tesla is the leader of ALL of it when you look at an entire package.

I know people hate tesla which is fine. Some "car buddies" of mine didn't like the idea i got a model 3. They said i was a traitor lol. Those guys are so fucking stupid
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BGM-M3COMP, do you own Tesla stock or are you employed by Tesla?
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BGM-M3COMP, do you own Tesla stock or are you employed by Tesla?
I actually don't. Although i should've years ago.

That's funny you mention employment. My friend actually does work for tesla lol.

They're just at the top still, that's all i'm saying.

Until a car maker can knock it off when you talk about every single factor, then it will remain at the top.
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They're just at the top still, that's all i'm saying.

Until a car maker can knock it off when you talk about every single factor, then it will remain at the top.

What are those factors?
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I actually don't. Although i should've years ago.

That's funny you mention employment. My friend actually does work for tesla lol.

They're just at the top still, that's all i'm saying.

Until a car maker can knock it off when you talk about every single factor, then it will remain at the top.
Thread is about the Taycan, not Tesla.
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Thread is about the Taycan, not Tesla.
Don't tell him that.


Has anyone driven the current gen Turbo S Taycan? I've only had seat time in a 4S and it was nice, but definitely a bit expensive for what it was.
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Thread is about the Taycan, not Tesla.
Totally. And I’m sure it’ll be a great car. Porsche knows what they’re doing.

Until then Tesla is the leader in this technology when talking about the whole package.

But yeah let’s go Porsche!
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Totally. And I’m sure it’ll be a great car. Porsche knows what they’re doing.

Until then Tesla is the leader in this technology when talking about the whole package.

But yeah let’s go Porsche!
Hahahaha dude you’re annoying af lol you must be jesting.

It’s like those threads about an M3 that people keep saying “my car has nicer looking grilles!”
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Totally. And I’m sure it’ll be a great car. Porsche knows what they’re doing.

Until then Tesla is the leader in this technology when talking about the whole package.
I thought it was superior in every single factor? are you changing your mind?

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Until a car maker can knock it off when you talk about every single factor, then it will remain at the top.
Best "Whole package", or best on "every single factor"? You keep moving the goal, so I'm curious where the goal even is these days.

You are here to bring the facts, and are clearly "wining the debate" so lets hear all about it.

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You're not winning these arguments.

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So i guess i win at the end

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Hahahaha dude you’re annoying af lol you must be jesting.

It’s like those threads about an M3 that people keep saying “my car has nicer looking grilles!”
Yet you keep responding though lol

A quick add to your ignore list and you won't have to see my annoying posts.

Sometimes when people state the truth, people get annoyed.

Again i am rooting for porsche. I am a porsche fan. I was just stating facts that tesla is still the leader in this technology. It was clear the topic of this thread is the taycan no? Who is it trying to go against? The model s plaid no?

So it was inevitable someone will mention tesla. I just so happen to do it. Because i'm stating facts.
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Hahahaha dude you’re annoying af lol you must be jesting.

It’s like those threads about an M3 that people keep saying “my car has nicer looking grilles!”
Yet you keep responding though lol

A quick add to your ignore list and you won't have to see my annoying posts.

Sometimes when people state the truth, people get annoyed.

Again i am rooting for porsche. I am a porsche fan. I was just stating facts that tesla is still the leader in this technology. It was clear the topic of this thread is the taycan no? Who is it trying to go against? The model s plaid no?

So it was inevitable someone will mention tesla. I just so happen to do it. Because i'm stating facts.
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Yet you keep responding though lol

A quick add to your ignore list and you won't have to see my annoying posts.

Sometimes when people state the truth, people get annoyed.

Again i am rooting for porsche. I am a porsche fan. I was just stating facts that tesla is still the leader in this technology. It was clear the topic of this thread is the taycan no? Who is it trying to go against? The model s plaid no?

So it was inevitable someone will mention tesla. I just so happen to do it. Because i'm stating facts.
I get it. It’s just that usually you post your opinion and move on… you repeated yourself endlessly!

And I don’t find you annoying and I’m not adding you to my ignore list!! Far from it. Just bantering.

You guys get too worked up on spec sheets! Lol
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