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What are some examples of MGP bourbons?
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https://www.great-taste.net/tidbits-...e-made-at-mgp/


31 N 50 Bourbon (Dry Diggings)

4 Spirits Bourbon and American Whiskey (4 Spirits)

1888 Bourbon (Diversa Brands)

99 Bottles Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)

Angel’s Envy Rye (Louisville Distilling Co.)

Aztec Spirits Whiskey Distilled from Bourbon Mash (Aztec Spirits)

Backbone Bourbon (Crossroads Vitners/Strong Spirits)

Barrell Whiskey (some batches) (Barrell Craft Spirits)

Batchers’ Bourbon (Litchfield Distillery)

Bearded Lady Bourbon (Vok Beverages)

Belle Meade Bourbon (Nelson’s Greenbriar)

Big Ass Bourbon (Diversa)

Big Bottom Bourbon (Big Bottom)

Big House Bourbon (Underdog Spirits)

Big Y Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)

Bone Snapper Rye (Strong Spirits)

Booze Brothers’ Corn Whiskey (NLV Tequila)

Bourbon 30

Bower Hill Rye (Meier’s)

Breaker Bourbon (Ascendant Spirits)

Bull Run Bourbon and American Whiskey (Bull Run Distilling)

Bulleit Rye (Diageo)

Cadée Bourbon & Rye (Cadée Distillery)

Cascadia Rye (Cadée Distillery)

Chattanooga Whiskey 1816 Reserve (Chattanooga Whiskey Co.)

Clarion Bourbon and Blended Whiskey (Distilled Spirits Epicenter)

Cleveland Rye Whiskey (Cleveland Whiskey)

Cloud’s Batch ’41 Blended Wheat Whiskey

Coney Island Carlo Bourbon (Terresentia)

Copper City Straight Bourbon (Arizona Distilling Co.)

Corn Star Corn Whiskey (Bardstown Barrel Selections)

Cougar Bourbon & Rye (Foster’s)

Country Smooth American Whiskey (Speakeasy Spirits)

Deceptivus Bourbon (Cadée Distillery)

Defiance Whiskey (Defiant Spirits)

Doubleday Bourbon (Cooperstown Distillery)

Eighteen 33 Bourbon (Boone County Distilling Co.)

Fast Luck Light Whiskey (Mosswood Distillers)

Filibuster Bourbon Rye (M.S. Trading LP)
George Dickel Rye (George Dickel)

George Remus Bourbon & Rye (Queen City Whiskey/Strong Spirits)

Henderson Rye (North Texas Distillers)

High Liquors Bourbon & Rye (High Liquors)

High West (an an element of many of their whiskeys blends)

Homestead Bourbon (Homestead American whiskey)

Hooker’s House (some of their bourbons and their rye; Prohibition Spirits)

Iowa Distilling Company Caribbean Cask Rye

J. Green Bourbon and Rye (Shadow Beverage Group)

James E. Pepper 1776 Bourbon & Rye (James E. Pepper/Strong Spirits)

James Oliver Rye (Indio Spirits)

J.R. Revelry Bourbon (La Bodega Internacional/Speakeasy Spirits)

Joint Bourbon (Temperance Distilling Co.)

Joseph Magnus Bourbon (Jos. A. Magnus & Co.)

Knotter Bourbon & Rye (Blaum Bros.)

Krofters Double Barreled Bourbon (Litchfield Distillery)

LeMont Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)

Lost Republic Bourbon & Rye

Mayor Pingree 10 year old Bourbon (Valentine Distilling)
Melvale Bourbon (New Liberty Distillery)

Metze’s Bourbon

Maryland Club American Whiskey (some bottlings) (New Liberty Distillery)

Maryland Club Bourbon (New Liberty Distillery)

Mosswood American Light Whiskey (Mosswood Distillers)

O.K.I. Bourbon and Rye (New Riff Distilling)

Old Bones Bourbon (Strong Spirits)

Old Hickory Bourbon (Meier’s)

Old Scenter Bourbon and Rye (Strong Spirits for R. Griesedieck Distilling)

Pinhook Bourbon (CJS Beverage Corp.)

Preamble Bourbon and Rye (Seven Jars Distillery)

Prichard’s Rye (Prichard’s)

Rebel Yell Rye (Luxco)

Rebellion Bourbon (Market Street Spirits – newer batches)

Redemption Bourbon & Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)

Riverboat Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)

Rough Rider Bourbon & Rye (Long Island Spirits)

Rye Whiskey 30 (Bourbon 30)

Ryskie Rye Whiskey (Glenns Creek Distilling)

Sagamore Spirit Rye (Distilled Spirits Epicenter)

Seagram’s 7 Blended Whiskey (Diageo)

Single Track Rye (Range and River Distilling)

Smokin’ Joe’s Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)

Smooth Ambler Old Scout Bourbon, Rye and Corn Whiskey (Smooth Ambler)
Smuggler’s Notch Rye

Spirit of America Bourbon (Hobson & Roberts)

Spring Mill Bourbon (Heartland Distillers)

Stave & Barrel Bourbon (Glenns Creek Distilling)

Stoutheart Bourbon (Hobson & Roberts)

Taos Lightning (KGB Spirits)

Temperance Trader (American Whiskey and some bourbon; Bull Run Distilling)

Templeton Rye (Templeton)

Temptation Bourbon (Bardstown Barrel Selections)

The Saloon Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)

Tin Cup Whiskey (Proximo Spirits)

Troubadour Bourbon (The Original Texas Legend Distillery)

Untitled No. 1 Whiskey (One Eight Distilling)

Virginia Black (Proximo Spirits)

WH Harrison Bourbon (Tipton Spirits)

Whistle Pig Old World Rye

White Heart Bourbon (Hobson & Roberts)

Widow Jane Rye (Cacao Prieto)

Willett Rye (Indiana ryes)

Winghart’s Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
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WTF is MGP? The parent company?
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MGP makes and sells spirits to other distillers/ bottlers.

https://www.mgpingredients.com/disti...verage/product
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SO its like bulk wine. They sell the same low grade garbage to hundreds of other wineries who may tweak it a little (or not), slap their own label on it and call it theirs! Is that about accurate?
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SO its like bulk wine. They sell the same low grade garbage to hundreds of other wineries who may tweak it a little (or not), slap their own label on it and call it theirs! Is that about accurate?

MGP actually has a very good reputation and is found in very nice bottles.

That list of products earlier includes some pricey bottles and some very sought after products as well.
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WTF is MGP? The parent company?
Contract distiller.

https://www.mgpingredients.com/distilled-spirits
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MGP actually has a very good reputation and is found in very nice bottles.

That list of products earlier includes some pricey bottles and some very sought after products as well.
Exactly, some of the Mayor Pingree, Belle Meade and Magnus (as well as others) bottles go for stupid money on the secondary market.

I'm still chasing a decent deal on Magnus Cigar Blend.....
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MGP actually has a very good reputation and is found in very nice bottles.

That list of products earlier includes some pricey bottles and some very sought after products as well.
Doesn't change my point. Basically a low end "Cheap" brand potentially has the same base or even the same liquor period as a high end one. It all comes from the same batch and can be sold under a different label, blended with something else or whatever.

I never really knew they did that with booze like this. I only knew of it with wine
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MGP makes and sells spirits to other distillers/ bottlers.

https://www.mgpingredients.com/disti...verage/product
X2 but they also have their own brands- https://www.mgpingredients.com/about...er-brands.html I have multiple bottles of George Remus (our club picks) and Remus Repeal

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SO its like bulk wine. They sell the same low grade garbage to hundreds of other wineries who may tweak it a little (or not), slap their own label on it and call it theirs! Is that about accurate?
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Doesn't change my point. Basically a low end "Cheap" brand potentially has the same base or even the same liquor period as a high end one. It all comes from the same batch and can be sold under a different label, blended with something else or whatever.

I never really knew they did that with booze like this. I only knew of it with wine
They don't sell any low end bourbons but there is definitely a mid and high level. I don't think you can buy any MGP produced bottles for under about $28 (their own Eight and Sand and still good). So retail ranges from about $28 to I think $200?. Nothing says you can't create some of the best products made and sell them to someone else for branding. Most of the time the higher priced MGP (or anyone's) product comes with longer aging. Guy who runs our bourbon club, his wife works for MGP and they aren't allowed to talk about who they sell to.

It doesn't all come from the same batch, or barrels, or warehouse, or recipe or aging.

I recently bought a New Riff 15 year bottle (MGP sourced) for $200 and traded it for roughly $650 (cash and bottles). Friend had the same bottle and decided to drink it. Some of the best bourbon I have ever had.
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X2 but they also have their own brands- https://www.mgpingredients.com/about...er-brands.html I have multiple bottles of George Remus (our club picks) and Remus Repeal





They don't sell any low end bourbons but there is definitely a mid and high level. I don't think you can buy any MGP produced bottles for under about $28 (their own Eight and Sand and still good). So retail ranges from about $28 to I think $200?. Nothing says you can't create some of the best products made and sell them to someone else for branding. Most of the time the higher priced MGP (or anyone's) product comes with longer aging. Guy who runs our bourbon club, his wife works for MGP and they aren't allowed to talk about who they sell to.

It doesn't all come from the same batch, or barrels, or warehouse, or recipe or aging.

I recently bought a New Riff 15 year bottle (MGP sourced) for $200 and traded it for roughly $650 (cash and bottles). Friend had the same bottle and decided to drink it. Some of the best bourbon I have ever had.

Thanks for explaining that...I wasn't going to persist in trying to change the other guys mind about cheap wine/ bourbon comparison....not worth my time. I like almost every MGP I have ever had and think they provide an incredible service to the small shops (And large) that need product to move!!!
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X2 but they also have their own brands- https://www.mgpingredients.com/about...er-brands.html I have multiple bottles of George Remus (our club picks) and Remus Repeal





They don't sell any low end bourbons but there is definitely a mid and high level. I don't think you can buy any MGP produced bottles for under about $28 (their own Eight and Sand and still good). So retail ranges from about $28 to I think $200?. Nothing says you can't create some of the best products made and sell them to someone else for branding. Most of the time the higher priced MGP (or anyone's) product comes with longer aging. Guy who runs our bourbon club, his wife works for MGP and they aren't allowed to talk about who they sell to.

It doesn't all come from the same batch, or barrels, or warehouse, or recipe or aging.

I recently bought a New Riff 15 year bottle (MGP sourced) for $200 and traded it for roughly $650 (cash and bottles). Friend had the same bottle and decided to drink it. Some of the best bourbon I have ever had.
$28 bucks ain't low end? LoL
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Jeez I leave for a week and conversation goes off the rails.

MGP definitely does some really good stuff and some not so good stuff. Depends on who is picking what they are buying from them. There are a lot of ones not on the list posted (smokewagon and obtanium off the top of my head). Pretty much anything that says distilled in Indiana is MGP.

But it is about to all be mute anyhow. MGP bought Luxco so now they have their own distribution and are not selling off their product like they were before (my friend that sources for obtanium says the options are way way slimmer right now)

Anyhow... I've been enjoying a few bottles. Rare breed rye is fantastic.
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Just a heads up for those that may not be aware. Tomorrow, May 15, is World Whiskey Day.
Plan to sit back with your bottle of choice , relax and enjoy. Cheers.
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Plan to sit back with your bottle of choice , relax and enjoy. Cheers.
Is it OK if I get a head start on that tonight or do I have to wait?
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$28 bucks ain't low end? LoL
Interesting that from my post this is all you disagree with. Thanks.

Low end is an opinion and come up with any price levels you want but you can buy lots of bottles for 1/3 to 1/2 the price of this one. Many think Eight and Sand is a good value in it's price range. I've had it when MGP gave our club a presentation but never purchased it. Doesn't change the fact that in the world of bourbon and rye's MGP is a respected producer and many of their great bottles are very good.

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Jeez I leave for a week and conversation goes off the rails.

MGP definitely does some really good stuff and some not so good stuff. Depends on who is picking what they are buying from them. There are a lot of ones not on the list posted (smokewagon and obtanium off the top of my head). Pretty much anything that says distilled in Indiana is MGP.

But it is about to all be mute anyhow. MGP bought Luxco so now they have their own distribution and are not selling off their product like they were before (my friend that sources for obtanium says the options are way way slimmer right now)

Anyhow... I've been enjoying a few bottles. Rare breed rye is fantastic.
I think you are correct in the long term, they would rather produce and sell their own product, mainly because they are losing out on a lot of the profit, then the new companies that buy from them are often doing it until they produce their own product, then move on. They purchased the Remus brand in 2016 so it may take a lot of time until they are bottling everything they produce.

Had King's Family Distillery Ryeconic last night. MGP product 110 proof, aged at least 4 years. Given to me as a gift for watching a friends dog. Look up retail it is about $75 and while good I don't think it is worth the money.

Also received a Smoke Wagon through Fedex, also around $75 (plus shipping), also MGP, no age statement, 115 proof. Look forward to trying it.

Label pictures also attached, they are required to say where it is distilled, if Indiana but bottled somewhere else it is highly likely MGP's product. They can also buy aged MGP product and further age it themselves which allows them to change the label.

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They purchased the Remus brand in 2016 so it may take a lot of time until they are bottling everything they produce.
Remus is a label, Luxco owns Lux Row distillery and a bunch of other stuff. They now not only have the distilling, warehouses, packaging, marketing, etc to fully move to their own production. The Luxco purchase was WAY more than just a brand. Given they are already not giving as many options for people looking to source, I think something will happen sooner than later with this deal.

You will have to let me know how the Smoke Wagon UCUF is. I have only had the Small Batch, which I really enjoyed. Don't see much of that stuff around here.
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