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And I can say with 100% certainty that the US will be getting the 4GC, its already been announced if you read closely, and there will be an M model, which will be my next next car, im getting the f30 335i in the interim. Good times to be had in the future with some of the bmw offerings on the way. 6CG is here to stay, it may one day replace the need for the 7er actually as that thing has seen its day and its too old school to be necessary anymore, you can get a 5er thats 95% the size of it with the same options and its cheaper, they may even one day bring the 5er Li across and then the naile would be sealed forever for the 7er.
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The F20 doesn't compete with the A4. The F30 does.
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No it does not, 3er has moved upclass from the e46 to f30. The new 3 is the old 5, but the a4 is still the same size as its been for a decade
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the a4 and 3er are, and will always be, fierce competitors in the exact same class....Not to mention that bmw bringing out a "4 series" is totally a copied concept off of what audi did with the A5. Its another way to make more $ with less production/development costs. Hey, we're all bimmerphiles here, but give audi their due for what they did. It doesnt mean we like their products.
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Apologies for the mis state, i just look/view the a4/a3 as no longer comparable to the 3er since its moved upscale in terms of its offering. Teh audi only offers a small engine, front wheel drive or all wheel drive which limits how I categorize a true sports saloon which the 3er certainly is. While I dont agree with the 4er badging either, im not sure how it equates to more$$ with less r&D? If anything based on the info presently available, there will be more r&d spent now that there is a 3er and 4er since the 4er will also have a 4door variant and the additional costs to develop the GC...
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2001 B5 A4: 175 in. 2011 B8 A4: 185.2 in. Delta: 11.2 inch increase in length 2001 E46 325i: 176 in. 2012 F30 328i: 182 in. Delta: 6 inch increase in length 1-series competes with the A3. 3-series competes with the A4.
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He had an update in january and gave new info, nothing about this not coming to the US. The US is the largest market for M, they make cars for us specifically, so if there is any M car coming out, it will certainly make it to our shores.
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yes yes I agree, misspoke on a4 vs a3. apologies
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The 328i with the new 2.0l turbo inline 4 (N20) competes with the A4 and its 2.0l turbo inline 4. I don't believe Audi's old 3.2l V6 is available anymore. The 335i with the 3.0l turbo inline 6 competes with the S4 and its 3.0l supercharged V6. The former RS4 and now RS5 compete with the current M3.
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6er GC Length = 197.125 WB = 116.850 Wide = 74.5669 Hi = 54.80 Track FR = 62.99 Rear = 65.55 5er F10 Length = 192.874 Wide = 73.22 WB = 116.850 Hi = 57.6377 7er F01 (non Li) Length =199.685 WB = 120.86 Wide = 74.88 / w/mirr= 84.01 Track = 64.96 CLS WB =113.2 Length =194.5 Wide/mir= 81.7 (estimate wide at 72) tech specs taken from official sites for BM and MB, cls only lists dimensions for width inclusive of mirrors, so i looked at 7er with mirrors for general comparison, and they are about 10" total for both sides, so subtracted 10" from the cls width to come to est of 72 my point originally was the the 6er GC is closer to the 7er in size than the 5er, and that the CLS is closer to the 5er than the 7er, therefore...GC is a bigger car...
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found it.... love the color in the pics...
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Wait till you see the S7 and potentially the RS 7, you'll forget all about the GC RS 7 = M6 GC killer, IMO. Specs will be relatively the same, same price category.. |
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It is almost certain the US will see a 4er Gran Coupe but with reaction to the 5er GT ,BMW might see no reason to import a 3er GT. That is a mentality that several of you have to reconsider. BMW make automobiles to satisfy enthusiasts in a global market. There is no longer any more specifics. It is now a global market and global demands reflect the product options.
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Also the standard 650i GC will have 440hp/480 ft lbs - which should be able to handily dispense it's rivals. If not there is always DINAN LOL Just my two cents of course
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