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      11-01-2018, 12:25 AM   #1
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60 Hours of Labour for my M6???

I brought my car in for service for leaking coolant and they have came back with a large repair order. They say that the "timing covers" need replacement and the engine needs to be pulled, in order to do so. They are going to use my extended warranty so I am letting them proceed but is this necessary? I have not heard of this problem on an s63 m5/6.

Also, they say the real main seal is leaking.

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Hi sovende96,
Those are not hours. It is the working /Labour unit. Here is 1WU = 5 min.
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Those are not hours. It is the working /Labour unit. Here is 1WU = 5 min.
The dealership clearly said 50-60 hour job and noted that the car will be there for over a week. Thanks
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Talk to them

It takes less than 60 hours to do an entire engine heart transplant. And there are less than sixty hours in a working week. It is unlikely that they are suggesting this kind of job would take that long.

I'd share your concern and get them to walk through the quote in detail.
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Firstly, the coolant leak issue is a well documented and known issue for the S63 and N63 motor. There are multiple points where leaks can happen but the most likely parts are on the hose lines on top of the engine.

My car also had the issue, but it was caught early and only the lines need to be replaced and coolant wiped up.

It appears most of the hours spent on your issue is that the leaked coolant affected other parts of the block and will force them to examine and replace the timing chain area. That said if they need to pull a motor and possibility replace some electronics in the chain area, and then you mentioned that some "rear seal" is leaking (not sure what they're talking about whether it's oil or coolant, and what part of the block is leaking) then a full week sounds about right.

Just to replace my coolant hose, it was a 2 day job.
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It takes less than 60 hours to do an entire engine heart transplant. And there are less than sixty hours in a working week. It is unlikely that they are suggesting this kind of job would take that long.

I'd share your concern and get them to walk through the quote in detail.
You can quote 60 hours of labor and turn it around in a week if multiple people are doing the work at the same time. I can totally see this happening on a bigger project.
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Firstly, the coolant leak issue is a well documented and known issue for the S63 and N63 motor. There are multiple points where leaks can happen but the most likely parts are on the hose lines on top of the engine.

My car also had the issue, but it was caught early and only the lines need to be replaced and coolant wiped up.

It appears most of the hours spent on your issue is that the leaked coolant affected other parts of the block and will force them to examine and replace the timing chain area. That said if they need to pull a motor and possibility replace some electronics in the chain area, and then you mentioned that some "rear seal" is leaking (not sure what they're talking about whether it's oil or coolant, and what part of the block is leaking) then a full week sounds about right.

Just to replace my coolant hose, it was a 2 day job.
How did you catch the coolant issue? I got the message for low coolant but it's always full and the car is never hot. Always at 200*F or less
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How did you catch the coolant issue? I got the message for low coolant but it's always full and the car is never hot. Always at 200*F or less
i actually never noticed it. No odor no puddles. When my car was in for an oil change, the dealer noticed it. I'm guessing they have a checklist for the S63/N63 cars to check for leaks around the hoses and they found it on my car.

If you have a message for low coolant, you probably have a leak. It's not normal to top off coolant.
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