3G Gone

Frupal · 03-29-2021, 03:31 PM

Just got an email saying that because AT&T will be shutting down the 3G network that pre-2016 BMWs will no longer have BMW Connected.

My thinking is that instead of throwing us under the bus and saying ‘Oh well...” BMW should offer a free or at least low cost upgrade. The only thing I really ever use is the real time traffic info. It will annoy me to lose this, but: “Oh well...”

I had a 2005 330ci M sport which was stolen from a restaurant valet in 2018. I thought ok, fuckers, and called BMW and said “find them!”

They apologized and said that the cell providers no longer supported the 2g network so they couldn’t trace the car.

Come on BMW! Get your shit together! Why continue to design the same mistakes into the cars?

I’ve actually been annoyed that I don’t have apple car play anyhow. When the 3g runs out in February 2022, I’ll probably just get a new car.

derailed · 03-29-2021, 04:00 PM

I just got the same email for my 6 series today and just felt that I should've got a 2017 ��

Derekz4 · 03-29-2021, 06:29 PM

Yeah, this kind of pisses me off too. A car that can still be under factory CPO warranty is put out of date is chicken shit.

ex46fanatic · 03-29-2021, 09:04 PM

so is 2015 lci ok ?

Derekz4 · 03-29-2021, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ex46fanatic

so is 2015 lci ok ?

Nope, yours will be gone too.

Opie55 · 03-30-2021, 07:47 AM

It kinda feels like they built in a timer to make my power seats stop working. I wonder if it will affect resale prices at all - "How's the technology?" "Oh it's a bit like having a cassette player with a convertible top." I bought RTTI every year but can't say I ever used it for anything functional and its "real time" aspect seemed to be a bit of a stretch as I looked at an empty road that was yellow on my screen. I never looked at weather or the news except to laugh at how the synthesized voice pronounced things when she read the news to me. The only function I used regularly was the online search function where I would ask for the nearest Home Depot or Mexican restaurant or hotels in the town ahead on a road trip. Siri substitutes perfectly for that, but I liked that my car could do it. It will be a lesser car.

Mnfamilyguy2020 · 03-30-2021, 09:04 AM

There are options

Derekz4 · 03-31-2021, 11:38 PM

I’m really surprised this doesn’t garner more attention. Your service calls you receive from the dealer is because your car is reporting it to them. That’s money in the bank for dealers as they make more on service than on sales.
Let’s face it, you spend more when you feel like you are being taken care of.

Mnfamilyguy2020 · 04-01-2021, 05:41 AM

Here's a much better explanation of the issue than the piece BMW put out.

https://www.lightreading.com/iot/ata.../d/d-id/765442

The technology that supports the communication aspect of CIC or NBT is/was on a 3G AT&T platform that goes back to 2001. AT&T began upgrading it in 2009 to 4G, and then in late 2019 to 5G. The CIC/NBT Connected platform was obsolete the day it was installed in the first BMW.

The very definition of planned obsolescence.....

Greekstyle · 04-01-2021, 10:58 AM

I got the email as well. I just paid for an extension of the RTTI a few months ago. Email said that until the date of expiration, I can enjoy the all the features the system has to offer even if i did not pay for them.

I'd rather keep my RTTI. Especially on Long island and the 5 boroughs, it was a huge help.

DMike · 04-01-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnfamilyguy2020

There are options

You mean a Volvo?

Derekz4 · 04-02-2021, 08:23 PM

I just got back from my oil service and brake fluid exchange at the dealer. Not sure if it made much of a difference, but, I did tell everyone around about the craziness of loosing these features because of the 3g shutdown. I challenged them to find a solution by the next time I come in, which will be just after the 3g loss.
They also claimed to have opened a ticket about it too.

Luftpost · 04-03-2021, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Derekz4

I challenged them to find a solution by the next time I come in, which will be just after the 3g loss.

Their solution........simply buy a new BMW.

L

Derekz4 · 04-03-2021, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftpost

Their solution........simply buy a new BMW.

L

LOL, while I’m sure they were thinking that, they didn’t have the balls to say it.

Kolianovskyi · 04-09-2021, 12:43 PM

Is this only for NA where AT&T resides? What about EU and/or Asia markets?

Frupal · 04-10-2021, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Is this only for NA where AT&T resides? What about EU and/or Asia markets?

I have no idea about that. But I just wondered: Does this mean that our clocks will not automatically adjust?

Kolianovskyi · 04-10-2021, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frupal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Is this only for NA where AT&T resides? What about EU and/or Asia markets?

I have no idea about that. But I just wondered: Does this mean that our clocks will not automatically adjust?

03-29-2021, 03:31 PM	#1
Frupal Mad Fiddler 789 Rep 986 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW 640i GC Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	3G Gone Just got an email saying that because AT&T will be shutting down the 3G network that pre-2016 BMWs will no longer have BMW Connected. My thinking is that instead of throwing us under the bus and saying ‘Oh well...” BMW should offer a free or at least low cost upgrade. The only thing I really ever use is the real time traffic info. It will annoy me to lose this, but: “Oh well...” I had a 2005 330ci M sport which was stolen from a restaurant valet in 2018. I thought ok, fuckers, and called BMW and said “find them!” They apologized and said that the cell providers no longer supported the 2g network so they couldn’t trace the car. Come on BMW! Get your shit together! Why continue to design the same mistakes into the cars? I’ve actually been annoyed that I don’t have apple car play anyhow. When the 3g runs out in February 2022, I’ll probably just get a new car. Last edited by Frupal; 03-29-2021 at 03:35 PM.. Reason: Adding stuff. Why the hell do you care?
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derailed Experienced User 7 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bimmaghini Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: gary, indiana iTrader: (0)	I just got the same email for my 6 series today and just felt that I should've got a 2017 ��
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Derekz4 First Lieutenant 169 Rep 332 Posts Drives: BMW 640i. BMW Z4,01 Bullitt Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	Yeah, this kind of pisses me off too. A car that can still be under factory CPO warranty is put out of date is chicken shit.
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ex46fanatic Private First Class 39 Rep 197 Posts Drives: E46 330ci F06 640i GC both LCI Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	so is 2015 lci ok ?
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Opie55 Colonel 1190 Rep 2,902 Posts Drives: '15 650i Convertible Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: US iTrader: (0)	It kinda feels like they built in a timer to make my power seats stop working. I wonder if it will affect resale prices at all - "How's the technology?" "Oh it's a bit like having a cassette player with a convertible top." I bought RTTI every year but can't say I ever used it for anything functional and its "real time" aspect seemed to be a bit of a stretch as I looked at an empty road that was yellow on my screen. I never looked at weather or the news except to laugh at how the synthesized voice pronounced things when she read the news to me. The only function I used regularly was the online search function where I would ask for the nearest Home Depot or Mexican restaurant or hotels in the town ahead on a road trip. Siri substitutes perfectly for that, but I liked that my car could do it. It will be a lesser car. Last edited by Opie55; 03-30-2021 at 07:53 AM..
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Mnfamilyguy2020 Private First Class 126 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 2020 X4MC 2018 RR Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	There are options
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Derekz4 First Lieutenant 169 Rep 332 Posts Drives: BMW 640i. BMW Z4,01 Bullitt Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	I’m really surprised this doesn’t garner more attention. Your service calls you receive from the dealer is because your car is reporting it to them. That’s money in the bank for dealers as they make more on service than on sales. Let’s face it, you spend more when you feel like you are being taken care of.
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Mnfamilyguy2020 Private First Class 126 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 2020 X4MC 2018 RR Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Here's a much better explanation of the issue than the piece BMW put out. https://www.lightreading.com/iot/ata.../d/d-id/765442 The technology that supports the communication aspect of CIC or NBT is/was on a 3G AT&T platform that goes back to 2001. AT&T began upgrading it in 2009 to 4G, and then in late 2019 to 5G. The CIC/NBT Connected platform was obsolete the day it was installed in the first BMW. The very definition of planned obsolescence..... Last edited by Mnfamilyguy2020; 04-01-2021 at 06:00 AM..
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Greekstyle Second Lieutenant 62 Rep 241 Posts Drives: 22' X7 40i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island iTrader: (2)	I got the email as well. I just paid for an extension of the RTTI a few months ago. Email said that until the date of expiration, I can enjoy the all the features the system has to offer even if i did not pay for them. I'd rather keep my RTTI. Especially on Long island and the 5 boroughs, it was a huge help.
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Derekz4 First Lieutenant 169 Rep 332 Posts Drives: BMW 640i. BMW Z4,01 Bullitt Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	I just got back from my oil service and brake fluid exchange at the dealer. Not sure if it made much of a difference, but, I did tell everyone around about the craziness of loosing these features because of the 3g shutdown. I challenged them to find a solution by the next time I come in, which will be just after the 3g loss. They also claimed to have opened a ticket about it too.
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Kolianovskyi First Lieutenant 87 Rep 379 Posts Drives: BMW 650i Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Is this only for NA where AT&T resides? What about EU and/or Asia markets?
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