BMW M6 13 or 15? or another car

MO_23 · 05-05-2018, 10:34 AM

Hey guys,

Currently have a 435i M package tuned with downpipe, ECU flash, Meisterschaft exhaust.. fun car to drive..but been wanting something more for a while..coming up on 3yr ownership in September..

Will not go M4, sound matters a lot to me and it's just horrible with any exhaust.

I've always wanted the M6 my whole life, found a few low mileage (20-30k) for good prices.. should I get a 13 with low miles? If I buy a 15 now, 2years from now it'll be worth 20k less..figured the 13 would take minimal depreciation at it's price point. What are the differences? And of course I would get an aftermarket warranty, which I'm including in my purchase price

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A 13 with low miles is $45k roughly and 15 with same miles is low 60's.

I have also been looking at other brands..but it's hard to leave BMW, we're getting tech, street presence, luxury handling etc.. please feel free to suggest any other car for me..

I do work from home everyday so no commute...daily driving wise, I'm at the gym, or friends on the weekends. If traveling for work typically Uber. Also had a used r8 in mind as depreciation would be minimal as hell since they've bottomed up. Talk to me!!

Flying Ace · 05-05-2018, 11:52 AM

I like your thought process. Regarding sticking with BMW, there are not many cars out there that is better than the driving experience of BMWs and especially M cars.

I agree with bypassing the F8x M3/4. It's lack of driving experience is the main reason I didn't buy it as I was coming from a E90 M3.

To answer your question on 2013 and 2015. There are only 2 primary differences:

1. idrive software
2. ZCP option

1. The 2015 idrive added touch functionality and I think larger screen. You can do an upgrade yourself for about $2000. So it's not worth eating $20k of depreciation for this.

2. ZCP was introduced in 2014 model year. This IMO, is a must buy. There's a minor HP bump (virtually unusable as it's at the last 1000 RPMs on the rev counter), but most importantly, ZCP also gets a revised steering ratio, retuned suspension, and different exhaust.

If it's driving experience you're after, ZCP is a big difference. I've heard the ZCP exhaust, it's pretty good and you likely won't be looking to go aftermarket. The car will feel more direct in its steering feel with it's new suspension. I have a ZCP with the Akrapovic exhaust. The driving experience is above and beyond what my M3 gave me. The M6 is not exactly a canyon carver (though it's very capable, just not as agile), but it's straight line speed is similar to the 911 Turbo, akin to strapping yourself on a rocket and holding on for the ride. (It's scary fast in high RPMs)

And finally my theory is, because ZCP is a substantial change in the car, it'll also get better resale value.

So the car you should get is a 2014 ZCP model to minimize depreciation effects and to get ZCP. You can also still find 2014 CPOs. 2013s will all be aftermarket warranties at this point.

Here's the article on ZCP:.
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=873975

deucequattro · 05-05-2018, 08:28 PM

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M6-Coupe · 05-05-2018, 10:37 PM

Go for 2013 M6

TomM6 · 05-06-2018, 07:41 AM

Go with the better maintained lower millage car, that is where the value is, as long as it is the combination of options and colors you desire. Nobody can tell or will ask what year it is, it is an FXX M6 and they will just admire it for what it is, a wonderful car!

MO_23 · 05-06-2018, 10:48 AM

Thank you so much guys, a few questions is the ZCP a must have?
I thought most of the M6 models came pretty loaded, what are some options that are a must have?

mastatikle · 05-06-2018, 11:59 AM

Tbh I think every option is needed on a car like this. I have everything except carbon ceramic brakes and I’m mad I didn’t hold out until finding a car with them. I never drove an M6 without the competition package so I don’t know how it is but I will tell you the car with ZCP is precise and tight. However it is a terrible ride with minimal comfort. My 1965 C10 rides smoother.

hl0m4n · 05-06-2018, 12:06 PM

hey op i am in a very similar situation as you.

i have been driving my 17 m4 for 1.5 years now and in the process selling it for a used m6 which i have always wanted, prices are great right now.

i was thinking about getting a very clean 13 but ultimately i made the 14 a minimum requirement for the following reasons:

1. 14 is facelift year: although very minor on the m6, most notably the headlights but it makes me feel better i am getting an lci.

2. nbt idrive: cic to nbt is a huge difference from a hardware perspective. this alone i want a 14 as minimum. and although 14s do not have the touch idrive controller, this is an easy pnp retrofit which i will be doing. nav update is $50 to upgrade to 2018-1 which you can find on the forums

. you can also download the latest idrive software from bmw usa.

3. zcp: on my e92 m3 competition was a $2,500 option or so and justified the purchase, it is very hard for me to find a clean m6 with zcp and for those that do have do not have b&o and personally i am an audiophile and would prefer the b&o over zcp. honestly the suspension changes and calibrations are nice but having the m6 as my daily driver and majorly driving highway to and from work i don't think i will notice any difference without driving the car harder to the limit.

i have always had coupes and now im also debating m6 coupe or gc but that is a whole other story

. good luck on your search.

daddymalu · 05-06-2018, 02:39 PM

I believe 2015 was facelift year....

Cincinnatus · 05-06-2018, 04:03 PM

Just a few thoughts from someone who's just been down this road.

The M6 in all years of production is virtually identical. As Flying Ace noted, there are only modest changes, one being the head unit (CIC to NBT) which is nice, but there are aftermarket solutions. And though the competition package is cool, if what you're really after is the sound, then just get a Meisterschaft exhaust for the M6.

The face-lift of '15 was also very subtle, and only a hardcore BMW aficionado would be able to tell. What I WOULD recommend, however, is the B&O sound system. Very, very worth it, moreso than the competition package IMO. And if you can get the HUD, all the better.

So, I'd go with a low mileage 2013 model. There are a few with around 30k miles, one in Texas has the B&O system in Sakhir Orange, if that's your thing. You can probably pick it up for about $45-ish,possibly less. One thing I would urge you to do for any car you buy remotely is to have the seller roll the car into a local BMW center and pay for a full CPO inspection. They won't certify the car, but you will get a reliable and thorough report on its condition.

As to the warranty, it's a really good idea. Nothing on a car like this would be cheap to fix. I got mine from Autopom. If you're interested, PM me and I'll give you contact info for my rep.

OH... just in case you were wondering, I have it on good authority that there are a total global production of only 557 M6's in Sakhir Orange with only 204 of those produced for North America. A fairly rare bird. So get one while you can.

mastatikle · 05-06-2018, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

hey op i am in a very similar situation as you.

i have been driving my 17 m4 for 1.5 years now and in the process selling it for a used m6 which i have always wanted, prices are great right now.

i was thinking about getting a very clean 13 but ultimately i made the 14 a minimum requirement for the following reasons:

1. 14 is facelift year: although very minor on the m6, most notably the headlights but it makes me feel better i am getting an lci.

2. nbt idrive: cic to nbt is a huge difference from a hardware perspective. this alone i want a 14 as minimum. and although 14s do not have the touch idrive controller, this is an easy pnp retrofit which i will be doing. nav update is $50 to upgrade to 2018-1 which you can find on the forums

. you can also download the latest idrive software from bmw usa.

3. zcp: on my e92 m3 competition was a $2,500 option or so and justified the purchase, it is very hard for me to find a clean m6 with zcp and for those that do have do not have b&o and personally i am an audiophile and would prefer the b&o over zcp. honestly the suspension changes and calibrations are nice but having the m6 as my daily driver and majorly driving highway to and from work i don't think i will notice any difference without driving the car harder to the limit.

i have always had coupes and now im also debating m6 coupe or gc but that is a whole other story

. good luck on your search.

B&O is terrible in the M6. It’s purely marketing and was done to make more money. If taken apart the speakers ar average and made in third world countries. Also the aluminum grills block much of the sound coming from those speakers and adds to the distortion. You’re better off getting base system and upgrading that instead of B&O

Cincinnatus · 05-07-2018, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastatikle

B&O is terrible in the M6. It’s purely marketing and was done to make more money. If taken apart the speakers ar average and made in third world countries. Also the aluminum grills block much of the sound coming from those speakers and adds to the distortion. You’re better off getting base system and upgrading that instead of B&O

That's an interesting statement. Can you please provide more information, such as what speakers are being used that you consider to bve'average' and in what way the aluminum grilles affect the performance more than, say, the plastic grills on any other speaker cover?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Flying Ace · 05-07-2018, 01:13 PM

as stated in my write up, I think ZCP is a must have. Ultimately, you have to judge it yourself by driving one with and without. By 2014, ZCP was a pretty common option (about 40% take). And as I have said, if you care a lot of resale, the next cycle of buyers will be looking for ZCP.

Regarding other options, you'll see that most M6s are all built with the same set of options. The ones that are "rare" are:

1. CCB
2. ZCP
3. Night vision camera
4. individual interior/exterior
5. full leather

I think finding one without B&O and the other options not listed here is actually an oddball.

BM dnobagaV · 05-07-2018, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

as stated in my write up, I think ZCP is a must have. Ultimately, you have to judge it yourself by driving one with and without. By 2014, ZCP was a pretty common option (about 40% take). And as I have said, if you care a lot of resale, the next cycle of buyers will be looking for ZCP.

Regarding other options, you'll see that most M6s are all built with the same set of options. The ones that are "rare" are:

1. CCB
2. ZCP
3. Night vision camera
4. individual interior/exterior
5. full leather

I think finding one without B&O and the other options not listed here is actually an oddball.

Personally I care most about getting B&O as my #1 option. Full leather would also be extremely nice, but I still don't understand the difference from extended yet.
CCB's, no thank you.
Individual, I'm painting the ext in a dif color once I buy it, so it's unimportant.
ZCP, you guys are selling me on it haha..

M6 in Bama · 05-07-2018, 03:50 PM

Wasn't there a big difference in the engine between '13 and '14. I was under the impression that the '12 and '13 had a much less reliable engine than the '14+.

TomM6 · 05-07-2018, 04:24 PM

No difference in engine since 2012, actually the engine has been bulletproof. The CP is only felt on the track, it is a personal preference. I drove both as well as M5 before deciding but wanted a convertible any way. If you buy a car like that you buy it exactly the way you want it, there is no compromise here. Enjoy either way

Flying Ace · 05-07-2018, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BM dnobagaV

Personally I care most about getting B&O as my #1 option. Full leather would also be extremely nice, but I still don't understand the difference from extended yet.
CCB's, no thank you.
Individual, I'm painting the ext in a dif color once I buy it, so it's unimportant.
ZCP, you guys are selling me on it haha..

check out the photos in this thread:

http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=756532

It shows a beige interior with full leather. Full leather is an option that includes the dash, glovebox, door panels, center console's base where your legs are. Some of the added leather is black leather. This person also has "Individual" option on it which adds contrast stitching. Note the contrast stitching on the doors, that's all part of the leather that's added in the "full" option package.

Let me put it this way, with full leather, literally everywhere you touch, it's either leather, the trim (CF, burl wood, etc), or alcantara. With extended leather, you'll find some plastic pieces at the lower sections of the seating area.

Flying Ace · 05-07-2018, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M6 in Bama

Wasn't there a big difference in the engine between '13 and '14. I was under the impression that the '12 and '13 had a much less reliable engine than the '14+.

They're all the same engine. The 2013s did have some initial defects found related to ancillary parts and a TSB was published. Effected engines were all fixed under warranty.

2014+ had the improved parts added at the factory obviously. There is no 2012 M6. 2013 was the first model year. The S63 was first found on the E70/1 X5/6M. But the motors were slightly different than the M5/6 motors, notably valvetronic was added to our motors.

TomM6 · 05-07-2018, 07:05 PM

F12 M6 Alpine White with Platinum individual full leather interior with carbon fiber shifter and M Performance steering wheel trim black out trim, carbon fiber BMW diffuser and rear spoiler...

mjposner · 05-07-2018, 07:38 PM

I was quoted over 3k to co cic to nbt, not including install (add $900).

"but there are aftermarket solutions" Such as???

B&O sounds good to me, but I never saw a used M6 w/o so no baseline to compare. I did add a sub in the trunk

Cincinnatus · 05-07-2018, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjposner

B&O sounds good to me, but I never saw a used M6 w/o so no baseline to compare. I did add a sub in the trunk

There are at least seven on Autotrader right now between 2013 and 2014, both coupes and convertibles, comprising roughly half of the listings on the first page. I didn't dig deeper to the second or third pages. So while not rare, it's not common either.

MO_23 · 05-10-2018, 04:38 PM

Thanks so much guys, appreciate all the feedback, it would definitely be a sakhir orange m6 with all the carbon add ons and an exhaust.

Any thoughts on the r8? depreciation would be minimal as hell as you can own one and sell it back for close price, again I work from home so no commute whatsoever.. Not on a budget but just want to make the smartest business decision as both cars had minimal changes over the years and Rock solid (not a GTR guy)

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MO_23 Private First Class 80 Rep 184 Posts Drives: 435i ENZO Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	BMW M6 13 or 15? or another car Hey guys, Currently have a 435i M package tuned with downpipe, ECU flash, Meisterschaft exhaust.. fun car to drive..but been wanting something more for a while..coming up on 3yr ownership in September.. Will not go M4, sound matters a lot to me and it's just horrible with any exhaust. I've always wanted the M6 my whole life, found a few low mileage (20-30k) for good prices.. should I get a 13 with low miles? If I buy a 15 now, 2years from now it'll be worth 20k less..figured the 13 would take minimal depreciation at it's price point. What are the differences? And of course I would get an aftermarket warranty, which I'm including in my purchase price . A 13 with low miles is $45k roughly and 15 with same miles is low 60's. I have also been looking at other brands..but it's hard to leave BMW, we're getting tech, street presence, luxury handling etc.. please feel free to suggest any other car for me.. I do work from home everyday so no commute...daily driving wise, I'm at the gym, or friends on the weekends. If traveling for work typically Uber. Also had a used r8 in mind as depreciation would be minimal as hell since they've bottomed up. Talk to me!!
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Flying Ace Lieutenant General 4987 Rep 11,891 Posts Drives: G05 45e, 997.1 & 991.1 GT3s Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (5)	I like your thought process. Regarding sticking with BMW, there are not many cars out there that is better than the driving experience of BMWs and especially M cars. I agree with bypassing the F8x M3/4. It's lack of driving experience is the main reason I didn't buy it as I was coming from a E90 M3. To answer your question on 2013 and 2015. There are only 2 primary differences: 1. idrive software 2. ZCP option 1. The 2015 idrive added touch functionality and I think larger screen. You can do an upgrade yourself for about $2000. So it's not worth eating $20k of depreciation for this. 2. ZCP was introduced in 2014 model year. This IMO, is a must buy. There's a minor HP bump (virtually unusable as it's at the last 1000 RPMs on the rev counter), but most importantly, ZCP also gets a revised steering ratio, retuned suspension, and different exhaust. If it's driving experience you're after, ZCP is a big difference. I've heard the ZCP exhaust, it's pretty good and you likely won't be looking to go aftermarket. The car will feel more direct in its steering feel with it's new suspension. I have a ZCP with the Akrapovic exhaust. The driving experience is above and beyond what my M3 gave me. The M6 is not exactly a canyon carver (though it's very capable, just not as agile), but it's straight line speed is similar to the 911 Turbo, akin to strapping yourself on a rocket and holding on for the ride. (It's scary fast in high RPMs) And finally my theory is, because ZCP is a substantial change in the car, it'll also get better resale value. So the car you should get is a 2014 ZCP model to minimize depreciation effects and to get ZCP. You can also still find 2014 CPOs. 2013s will all be aftermarket warranties at this point. Here's the article on ZCP:. http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=873975 __________________ 22 Phytonic/Coffee X5 45e (CoVID-free) 08 Speed Yellow 911 GT3 Sharkwerks 12 AW/Cinnamon X5d Sports Pkg (retired) 14 AW/Beige M6GC ZCP, MPE, V2 steering wheel, vorsteiner (retired) 08 SSII/Black E90 M3 (retired) Last edited by Flying Ace; 05-05-2018 at 12:09 PM..
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TomM6 Private First Class 74 Rep 181 Posts Drives: F12 M6 individual Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: DC iTrader: (0)	Go with the better maintained lower millage car, that is where the value is, as long as it is the combination of options and colors you desire. Nobody can tell or will ask what year it is, it is an FXX M6 and they will just admire it for what it is, a wonderful car!
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MO_23 Private First Class 80 Rep 184 Posts Drives: 435i ENZO Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Thank you so much guys, a few questions is the ZCP a must have? I thought most of the M6 models came pretty loaded, what are some options that are a must have?
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mastatikle Lieutenant 70 Rep 469 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Tbh I think every option is needed on a car like this. I have everything except carbon ceramic brakes and I’m mad I didn’t hold out until finding a car with them. I never drove an M6 without the competition package so I don’t know how it is but I will tell you the car with ZCP is precise and tight. However it is a terrible ride with minimal comfort. My 1965 C10 rides smoother.
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hl0m4n Major General 2171 Rep 5,623 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NY iTrader: (58)	hey op i am in a very similar situation as you. i have been driving my 17 m4 for 1.5 years now and in the process selling it for a used m6 which i have always wanted, prices are great right now. i was thinking about getting a very clean 13 but ultimately i made the 14 a minimum requirement for the following reasons: 1. 14 is facelift year: although very minor on the m6, most notably the headlights but it makes me feel better i am getting an lci. 2. nbt idrive: cic to nbt is a huge difference from a hardware perspective. this alone i want a 14 as minimum. and although 14s do not have the touch idrive controller, this is an easy pnp retrofit which i will be doing. nav update is $50 to upgrade to 2018-1 which you can find on the forums . you can also download the latest idrive software from bmw usa. 3. zcp: on my e92 m3 competition was a $2,500 option or so and justified the purchase, it is very hard for me to find a clean m6 with zcp and for those that do have do not have b&o and personally i am an audiophile and would prefer the b&o over zcp. honestly the suspension changes and calibrations are nice but having the m6 as my daily driver and majorly driving highway to and from work i don't think i will notice any difference without driving the car harder to the limit. i have always had coupes and now im also debating m6 coupe or gc but that is a whole other story . good luck on your search. __________________ Cars: 07 335i ► 08 328i ► 11 328xi ► 13 M3 ► 17 M4 ► 14 M6
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Cincinnatus First Lieutenant 123 Rep 397 Posts Drives: 2013 M6 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Northeast PA iTrader: (0)	Just a few thoughts from someone who's just been down this road. The M6 in all years of production is virtually identical. As Flying Ace noted, there are only modest changes, one being the head unit (CIC to NBT) which is nice, but there are aftermarket solutions. And though the competition package is cool, if what you're really after is the sound, then just get a Meisterschaft exhaust for the M6. The face-lift of '15 was also very subtle, and only a hardcore BMW aficionado would be able to tell. What I WOULD recommend, however, is the B&O sound system. Very, very worth it, moreso than the competition package IMO. And if you can get the HUD, all the better. So, I'd go with a low mileage 2013 model. There are a few with around 30k miles, one in Texas has the B&O system in Sakhir Orange, if that's your thing. You can probably pick it up for about $45-ish,possibly less. One thing I would urge you to do for any car you buy remotely is to have the seller roll the car into a local BMW center and pay for a full CPO inspection. They won't certify the car, but you will get a reliable and thorough report on its condition. As to the warranty, it's a really good idea. Nothing on a car like this would be cheap to fix. I got mine from Autopom. If you're interested, PM me and I'll give you contact info for my rep. OH... just in case you were wondering, I have it on good authority that there are a total global production of only 557 M6's in Sakhir Orange with only 204 of those produced for North America. A fairly rare bird. So get one while you can. Last edited by Cincinnatus; 05-06-2018 at 04:23 PM..
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Flying Ace Lieutenant General 4987 Rep 11,891 Posts Drives: G05 45e, 997.1 & 991.1 GT3s Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (5)	as stated in my write up, I think ZCP is a must have. Ultimately, you have to judge it yourself by driving one with and without. By 2014, ZCP was a pretty common option (about 40% take). And as I have said, if you care a lot of resale, the next cycle of buyers will be looking for ZCP. Regarding other options, you'll see that most M6s are all built with the same set of options. The ones that are "rare" are: 1. CCB 2. ZCP 3. Night vision camera 4. individual interior/exterior 5. full leather I think finding one without B&O and the other options not listed here is actually an oddball. __________________ 22 Phytonic/Coffee X5 45e (CoVID-free) 08 Speed Yellow 911 GT3 Sharkwerks 12 AW/Cinnamon X5d Sports Pkg (retired) 14 AW/Beige M6GC ZCP, MPE, V2 steering wheel, vorsteiner (retired) 08 SSII/Black E90 M3 (retired)
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