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      05-25-2020, 11:41 PM   #133
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      05-26-2020, 03:40 AM   #134
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It's hard to put more than 1000 HP to the ground effectively before 100 mph.
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      05-26-2020, 01:50 PM   #135
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I have had several cars like EVO, STI, Golf R etc which were in the 300 hp range and IMO that range makes for a quick car rather than fast. I liked the balance of the OG M2 with 365 hp and that was probably perfect for a street car so I would say the range of 400 hp is probably the best although that varies depending on vehicle size and weight. I can't imagine needing more power than what the S58 provides even in a heavy SUV like the X3MC it can shame most sports cars in a straight line. That said I would never turn down the opportunity to own a more powerful vehicle if the opportunity was presented. Sometimes engine character matters more than just raw hp/torque as the Shelby GT350 isn't blazing fast in a straight line but it's much more of an experience than most V8TT's that make more power.
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      06-01-2020, 09:23 AM   #136
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RWD only between 400-500whp is fun for daily. But you have to learn the car to know your limits.
I feel that since AWD is way more forgiving and easy to handle it's a big window btwn 500-750awhp is fun. It's there when you need it and its still easily tameable.
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      06-04-2020, 10:41 PM   #137
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Miata is only 180 hp but super fun to drive.
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      06-04-2020, 11:29 PM   #138
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The 480hp/490tq my M3 puts down is ridiculously overkill for the street.

My biggest gripe about the car is that I can't wind it out. At all. Put your foot into for more than 3-4 seconds, and you're breaking the law.
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In a straight line, if you can’t spin the tires at what ever speed your at, it’s not enough!
On a road course, it’s a lot more complicated.
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In a straight line, if you canít spin the tires at what ever speed your at, itís not enough!
On a road course, itís a lot more complicated.
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      06-05-2020, 08:43 AM   #141
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In terms of long term reliability I'm thinking right around 100 hp/liter of displacement.
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      06-05-2020, 08:54 AM   #142
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I daily a S2000 with about 240hp and love to rev it out to redline.
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I daily a S2000 with about 240hp and love to rev it out to redline.
Some would agree that for those 10 seconds, you are in heaven.
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Some would agree that for those 10 seconds, you are in heaven.
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      06-05-2020, 12:34 PM   #145
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In a straight line, if you can’t spin the tires at what ever speed your at, it’s not enough!
On a road course, it’s a lot more complicated.
Let me put some bad tire on it to solve the not enough hp problem...
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      06-06-2020, 01:51 PM   #147
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For most modern cars around rwd 3500 lbs, 450 is fantastic...

For AWD, cars you can go up to 600... i.e M5... but that's highly dependent on weight.

I think a car like the F80 M3 Comp is at the very limit of what can be used to its full extent on a daily... power to weight just works
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      06-07-2020, 10:51 AM   #148
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I daily a S2000 with about 240hp and love to rev it out to redline.
Why do you daily the S2K and not the M3? Seems like the M3 would make a better daily?
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Why do you daily the S2K and not the M3? Seems like the M3 would make a better daily?
S2k has cheaper operation cost, older car, and more low key.
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      06-17-2020, 09:39 AM   #150
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Good day. I believe that a lot of power for the car is not needed. I have 3 row suv and I'm quite happy with its power. As you can guess, this is the new BMW X7. Its power is enough to easily overtake and move comfortably.

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      06-17-2020, 11:19 AM   #151
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For me, the car needs to have enough power to keep up with at least 85% of the cars on the road yet it should be fun to drive too.

High HP and low TQ is always a struggle and not so fun to drive. My current daily is a 2002 E55 with 350 HP/400 TQ and I can keep up with most of what's out there.

I also have a '12 X5M and at 620/570 , I am very pleased with that too.
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      06-24-2020, 08:20 AM   #152
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It all depends on what you doing with the power. If it's for the street as a daily driven car I would say 450-500HP is good enough, unless its for the omegle track that's a whole different topic.
Although a lot has to do with power delivery as well. I've had TQ monsters that the first 2 gears are useless. They are fun....but there is the other side of the spectrum where you have high HP and lower TQ and have to rev it out.

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