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      05-29-2020, 03:36 PM   #45
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How does one not look like rapper or a pimp driving one of these? At $100K+ you may need to be. It's starts at $76K and gets worse from there.
The irony and or ignorance of this comment is telling.

I live in a Suburb of Dallas and by far, the drivers of every Escalade I see (which is alot) are White middle aged females followed by White Males young and older. Neither appear to be Rappers or Pimps.
Not sure where you live.
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      05-30-2020, 12:38 AM   #46
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The irony and or ignorance of this comment is telling.

I live in a Suburb of Dallas and by far, the drivers of every Escalade I see (which is alot) are White middle aged females followed by White Males young and older. Neither appear to be Rappers or Pimps.
Not sure where you live.
My wifes pimp hand is pretty strong...as a current (but not particularly enthusiastic) Escalade owner I must say, this is a pretty strong offering.

I must say, I am not super impressed with Cadillac, I really would like to be. I have owned some nice brands, purchased or in a couple of cases leased, new (only significant to comment on the dealer experience). I have had BMWs (M3, 335, X5, M5), and Audi (S4), Porsche (Cayenne S, Boxster S) I mention these only for context.

I would say that the Cadillac build quality is on par with my BMWs, better in some ways, not as good in others. The Audi was a bit better then either brand, and the Porsches smoked all of them.

The real difference, where Caddy falls on its face is the dealership, more specifically the service experience. The German brands have this dialed in, loaner cars, washing and cleaning of you car before its returned. Its not the people that you deal with, my Cadillac guy is great, and its the same guy every time (same with my Porsche experience, not with BMW or Audi), its just that the GM dealers don't/can't take that extra little step.

With the exception of the M5 the Escalade is the most expensive vehicle of the group, the 335 was the least expensive, the dealership experience with the BMW was FAR superior (the two dealers are about 2 miles apart, so it not like its a 'different' area).
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      05-30-2020, 08:34 AM   #47
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The irony and or ignorance of this comment is telling.

I live in a Suburb of Dallas and by far, the drivers of every Escalade I see (which is alot) are White middle aged females followed by White Males young and older. Neither appear to be Rappers or Pimps.
Not sure where you live.
Exactly! We own a 15.5 ESV and will likely replace it in another year or two with another. With 3 sports playing kids, 2 large dogs, and the need for 4WD for our beach house, the ESV is one of the few vehicles that meets our needs. I'm excited to see the new one and see how it's been even better differentiated from the Suburban and Denali's.

I do agree with the other post- having owned multiple mainstream luxury brands- the Cadillac dealership is very subpar. It's what I'd expect at a regular GM dealership.
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      05-30-2020, 08:42 AM   #48
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Not a bad car! Interior seems to be a BMW interior rip-off. I would still roll with the X7 M50i.
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      05-30-2020, 09:54 AM   #49
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Looks like the front end was smashed into a wall. Which makes it look out of portion.

As for those comparing to a BMW, in some states it is a BMW (Big Mormon Wagon).

(And if anyone is worried those of the LDS faith call it that too).
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https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/...alades/rappers

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/05...crowd-anymore/
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[QUOTE=GenXer;26248780]https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/...alades/rappers

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/05...crowd-anymore/[/QUOTE

These articles are from 5-7 years ago before the current generation even went on sale. Still they do give us context from that time period.
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      06-05-2020, 09:31 AM   #52
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GM is finally beginning to show signs of automotive wisdom.

What I like in the 2021 Escalade:
- Independent rear suspension
- Optional audio system with 35 speakers
- Air suspension with magnetic ride control
- Interior

What I sense will be the reasons why BMW X5M (or X4MC) will wind up in my garage:
- GM dealer service experience
- First year reliability is likely to be subpar
- GM's aging 6.2-liter V8 with 420 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque
Aging relative to what? The L87 just debuted in 2019.
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      06-18-2020, 08:09 AM   #53
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Hate to say it, but this will probably be my next car. With our fourth kid on the way, this will be easier to get them in and out of compared to an x7.
Don't be embarrassed. Say it with your chest!
Some people (especially people on this board) hate on the Escalade, but it is a good value when it's time to seriously consider a large SUV.
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      06-18-2020, 01:36 PM   #54
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Don't be embarrassed. Say it with your chest!
Some people (especially people on this board) hate on the Escalade, but it is a good value when it's time to seriously consider a large SUV.
It absolutely is. I have friends and neighbors who own them. They ride very well. Quiet, confy and solid speef for such heft.
This new one has mucho road presence!
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Don't be embarrassed. Say it with your chest!
Some people (especially people on this board) hate on the Escalade, but it is a good value when it's time to seriously consider a large SUV.
I wish I could could get the escalade interior with the yukon exterior.
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I like the idea of OLED screens but I don't like the double frame look. To me, it looks like someone just decided to add a second screen.
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