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      05-29-2020, 05:56 PM   #1585
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Iíve taken my BMW to three different dealers since Iíve had it and see M3ís, M5ís.... on lifts next to or nearby to my lowly 1 series. Bet they have the new M8 and even the I8 there on occasion also. Do your dealers by you have their own special service area for their higher end cars?
No. I stated this because I remember some time ago there was a Porsche dealership, near where I used to live, which had a separate garage for the more modified 911s. Perhaps this is no longer being done, or was just unique to this dealership.
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      05-29-2020, 07:33 PM   #1586
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Finally saw one in person yesterday at the track. Black with yellow calipers. I thought it looked good but still not liking the rear much.
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      05-29-2020, 09:29 PM   #1587
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Saw one in action on the road today and everyone around us was fascinated with it. Like people rolling down the windows and pointing like it was this exotic Ferrari/Lambo. Was def a head turner and the exhaust sounded awesome when he let it rip.

Sadly was being driven by college age looking kids tho?
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      05-30-2020, 08:42 AM   #1588
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While I believe that the car looks beautiful, I find it unfortunate that Chevrolet will service it right along with every other car and truck. It would be nice if they gave high-end cars special treatment, using mechanics who specialize only in these cars.
Regardless what has been said about specialized Corvette technical training for the mechanics (all good points), what is so exotic about the C8? IIRC, for now, it is using a Chevrolet small block with a transaxle bolted to the rear of the engine, which is not much different than the C5 - C7 design with the transaxle sitting between the rear wheels. Once the overhead cam V8 comes out, it's not like GM Techs haven't seen an overhead cam engine; GM has had plenty of overhead cam engines in the past and present. The suspension is a new design but nothing exotic, and they did drop the transverse fiber leaf spring design for a more conventional suspension, which is similar in design to other GM products; I'd say the transverse leaf spring design is actually more exotic. It has a software-controlled dual-clutch automatic transmission, which is not really exotic stuff these days and not for GM either.

The electrical system in new, which is probably where training is really necessary, but I doubt the system is much different than other current GM models, meaning the C7 Corvette was electrically a generation behind and is now "current" with other GM products and industry electrical system engineering SAE standards.

If you think about it, the GM vehicles that really are in need of specialized training to repair are the Volt and Bolt.

My thoughts at least.
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      05-30-2020, 11:30 AM   #1589
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Ouchie.... The incompetence is strong here...

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/c...st-144269.html
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      05-30-2020, 02:24 PM   #1590
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Ouchie.... The incompetence is strong here...

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/c...st-144269.html
Agreed. ALL cars have markings on the chassis of where the lift contact points are. The are indicated by a chevron/triangle. It is an SAE requirement to mark the chassis in such a way as to show where the lift arm pads are supposed to contact the chassis.

This is just improper training in general, and not specific to the C8. The lift in question is a Rotary and looks like an asymmetrical SPO-A10, which is the same lift I have. The lift comes with a training manual and a spotting plate for the floor. Cars less than 94 inches in wheelbase locate the front left wheel behind the spotting plate. Between 95" - 104", the wheel is spotted on the plate, and any thing above 105", the wheel is spotted in front of the plate.
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      06-03-2020, 10:22 AM   #1591
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Had a C8 come in a few days ago for R&D, She was beautiful but how will she match up against German Engineering? Only one way to find out



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      06-03-2020, 10:25 AM   #1592
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Kind of related interesting info:

My friend just sold his new 2020 Stingray for almost $40k over MSRP. I was shocked...

Apparently the factory's aren't producing them currently? If your rich and you absolutely have to have one this summer... the price premiums are outrageous!
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      06-03-2020, 12:13 PM   #1593
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Kind of related interesting info:

My friend just sold his new 2020 Stingray for almost $40k over MSRP. I was shocked...

Apparently the factory's aren't producing them currently? If your rich and you absolutely have to have one this summer... the price premiums are outrageous!
Factories are back online since May 26. They have stated they will build 20,181 2020 units, by adding shifts.

Also 2021 msrp is not getting a price bump like some expected.

If resellers want to make a quick buck, I would sell now.
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      06-03-2020, 12:44 PM   #1594
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Kind of related interesting info:

My friend just sold his new 2020 Stingray for almost $40k over MSRP. I was shocked...

Apparently the factory's aren't producing them currently? If your rich and you absolutely have to have one this summer... the price premiums are outrageous!
There is a Luxury Pre Owned Dealer that I've purchased from and they have a 2020 White with Black for $107k.
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There is a Luxury Pre Owned Dealer that I've purchased from and they have a 2020 White with Black for $107k.
The one Im talking about was White on Red and he had it listed for $109k. Not positive what he ended up getting but at first people were chirping because he had it listed so high... sure enough about 5 days later SOLD!

Why cant I be this lucky
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Factories are back online since May 26. They have stated they will build 20,181 2020 units, by adding shifts.

Also 2021 msrp is not getting a price bump like some expected.

If resellers want to make a quick buck, I would sell now.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I had a feeling this would be a very short lived phenomena. Once in a lifetime some would say.
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      06-03-2020, 01:08 PM   #1597
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Sadly was being driven by college age looking kids tho?
What's wrong with younger people driving nice cars? Just curious.
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What's wrong with younger people driving nice cars? Just curious.
In most instances, they didnt earn them. They were given to them.
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      06-03-2020, 02:23 PM   #1599
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Sadly was being driven by college age looking kids tho?
What's wrong with younger people driving nice cars? Just curious.
I am probably considered a younger guy at 28- but as somebody mentioned above, it's the perception of being given things, not earned.

Who knows I could be completely wrong but I thought it was ironic that the first C8 vette I see is being driven by 19 yr olds lol
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Regardless what has been said about specialized Corvette technical training for the mechanics (all good points), what is so exotic about the C8? IIRC, for now, it is using a Chevrolet small block with a transaxle bolted to the rear of the engine, which is not much different than the C5 - C7 design with the transaxle sitting between the rear wheels. Once the overhead cam V8 comes out, it's not like GM Techs haven't seen an overhead cam engine; GM has had plenty of overhead cam engines in the past and present. The suspension is a new design but nothing exotic, and they did drop the transverse fiber leaf spring design for a more conventional suspension, which is similar in design to other GM products; I'd say the transverse leaf spring design is actually more exotic. It has a software-controlled dual-clutch automatic transmission, which is not really exotic stuff these days and not for GM either.

The electrical system in new, which is probably where training is really necessary, but I doubt the system is much different than other current GM models, meaning the C7 Corvette was electrically a generation behind and is now "current" with other GM products and industry electrical system engineering SAE standards.

If you think about it, the GM vehicles that really are in need of specialized training to repair are the Volt and Bolt.

My thoughts at least.
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While I have never been a big Corvette fan, now thinking differently, much of what I appreciated about the Corvette was if you either bought it used or kept it a long time you didn't need a highly trained/specialized mechanic and didn't need to be afraid of "worst case scenario". I buy a C8 and blow the engine, I can deal with it. I buy a Ferrari and blow the engine not even sure where to begin (can a local person rebuild a Ferrari engine or am I shipping the engine somewhere well out of state?).

I hope it is always able to be worked on by trained but not exclusive mechanics (if mechanics highly specialized training you will pay for it) and I see no value in them putting up special areas to work on them, this is a guaranteed cost you will pay for but unless the result is better (and it shouldn't be), I don't want to pay for it. I am especially interested in the overhead cam engine, which will add complexity, especially if there is a serious problem out of warranty but I still hope GM keeps things reasonable.
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Kind of related interesting info:

My friend just sold his new 2020 Stingray for almost $40k over MSRP. I was shocked...

Apparently the factory's aren't producing them currently? If your rich and you absolutely have to have one this summer... the price premiums are outrageous!
Thatís crazy! Definitey wonít get the money back for that.
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Sadly was being driven by college age looking kids tho?
What's wrong with younger people driving nice cars? Just curious.
It triggers envy. 💡
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Sadly was being driven by college age looking kids tho?
What's wrong with younger people driving nice cars? Just curious.
It triggers envy. 💡
Envy? Nah I'm happy with what I have and what I can afford at my age.

I started my own business 2+ years ago and work a full time job- I could have bought many other vehicles other than the M340 but I'd rather put my $ elsewhere.

Thanks for the assumption tho bro!
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Sadly was being driven by college age looking kids tho?
What's wrong with younger people driving nice cars? Just curious.
It triggers envy. 💡
Envy? Nah I'm happy with what I have and what I can afford at my age.

I started my own business 2+ years ago and work a full time job- I could have bought many other vehicles other than the M340 but I'd rather put my $ elsewhere.

Thanks for the assumption tho bro!
I was speaking generally.
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Details on the Z06 emerge...

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Interesting and Nice...

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