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      02-25-2021, 09:20 PM   #375
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      02-25-2021, 09:46 PM   #376
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Interesting, the mirrors would initially tell me this is an MPA model but the wide fender flares and quad exhaust say otherwise.
Anyone else notice the drivers side mirror is different than the passenger's? Both "M-Style" but different.

Road testing different designs?
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      02-25-2021, 09:52 PM   #377
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So the body lines of this thing is exactly what everyone wants, now we just wait for the official uncovering of the headlights/taillights. Let us pray.
Taillights will totally be inspired by the M Vision Concept. Upcoming LCI X3 taillights will be similar to them too.
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      02-25-2021, 09:53 PM   #378
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Anyone else notice the drivers side mirror is different than the passenger's? Both "M-Style" but different.

Road testing different designs?
I don't think they are different, just the shape of them and the different angle that you see them in the photo(s)
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      02-25-2021, 09:55 PM   #379
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Those wide fenders look promising...

420ps is too low...even the current A45 AMG has 421ps, with Nissan's 400Z, the new Civic type R and the new WRX STi all be coming in circa 400ps...

Needs 450ps
But those cars that you listed won't hold a candle to a G87 with 400hp and a BMW M designed suspension ...well...unless they weigh hundreds of pounds less maybe.
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Anyone else notice the drivers side mirror is different than the passenger's? Both "M-Style" but different.

Road testing different designs?
I don't think they are different, just the shape of them and the different angle that you see them in the photo(s)
Ah...damn I think ur right
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      02-25-2021, 10:26 PM   #381
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This the M2 that's going to be made in Mexico? I can't picture owning a true M car that's not made in the motherland. This is really BMW's last hope tho for this new generation of recapturing those repulsed by the g8x platform

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      02-25-2021, 10:49 PM   #382
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Hope its going to happen

G87 M2C 450-460ps, CSL 500+ with extensive weight reduction

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      02-25-2021, 11:13 PM   #383
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      02-25-2021, 11:57 PM   #384
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      02-26-2021, 12:31 AM   #385
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It looks like it will be built in Mexico?
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      02-26-2021, 12:35 AM   #386
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This the M2 that's going to be made in Mexico?
Yes, at the state-of-the-art plant of BMW San Luis Potosí in ///Mexico (see here and here).





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I can't picture owning a true M car that's not made in the motherland. This is really BMW's last hope tho for this new generation of recapturing those repulsed by the g8x platform
You can picture owning "a true M car" made in Mexico. All it takes is an open mind.
I guess it isn't so much a question of how good will it be if made in Mexico but rather nostalgia; After all, German thoroughbreds should be German.

Having said that, Mexicans made this:



https://www.auto123.com/en/news/amp/...1400-hp/61559/
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      02-26-2021, 01:36 AM   #387
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Some significant fender flaring going on
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      02-26-2021, 02:23 AM   #388
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This the M2 that's going to be made in Mexico?
Yes, at the state-of-the-art plant of BMW San Luis Potosí in ///Mexico (see here and here).





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I can't picture owning a true M car that's not made in the motherland. This is really BMW's last hope tho for this new generation of recapturing those repulsed by the g8x platform
You can picture owning "a true M car" made in Mexico. All it takes is an open mind.
I guess it isn't so much a question of how good will it be if made in Mexico but rather nostalgia; After all, German thoroughbreds should be German.

Having said that, Mexicans made this:



https://www.auto123.com/en/news/amp/...1400-hp/61559/
That looks ready to crash and burn not the greatest design

I hope it comes with a bottle of tequila for roadside medicinal purposes
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I disagree, current car has plenty of horsepower, what it really needs is a diet, not a power increase.
This can be said for just about every new performance vehicle on the market.
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ugh..seriously?

I think this is not to far off unfortunately....
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      02-26-2021, 03:56 AM   #391
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ugh..seriously?

Personally I don't see problems compare with m3/m4 grill. I wish front of m2 shows good though...
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This the M2 that's going to be made in Mexico?

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I can't picture owning a true M car that's not made in the motherland. This is really BMW's last hope tho for this new generation of recapturing those repulsed by the g8x platform
You can picture owning "a true M car" made in Mexico. All it takes is an open mind.
I guess it isn't so much a question of how good will it be if made in Mexico but rather nostalgia; After all, German thoroughbreds should be German.

Having said that, Mexicans made this:



https://www.auto123.com/en/news/amp/...1400-hp/61559/

It's just going to be assembled in Mexico, the original design process and development will still be done in Germany, one would assume.

Realistically, any human anywhere can be properly trained to turn a screw or operate a software-driven assembly rig and not have any discernible effect on the quality of the product but let's be honest, this is just a cop-out by BMW AG, in order to save a buck and please their shareholders.

It does take away a certain luster from the brand's reputation and heritage, it not being imported directly from Germany and all but whatever, I'm still saving up for one regardless because it's shaping up to be the last vehicle in this segment, with manual transmission option, before it's just a blip in the history books.
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      02-26-2021, 05:04 AM   #393
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It does take away a certain luster from the brand's reputation and heritage.
Hence my recent comment about nostalgia.

A German thoroughbred should be German.

Build all the cars in Mexico, South Africa, Korea and any of a hundred other countries but make the pride and joy that is ///M in Germany.

That's why, even though owned by VW, Bugatti is still manufactured in its ancestral home in Molsheim, France. Similarly, though also owned by VW, both Lamborghini factories are still located at the company's headquarters in Sant'Agata Bolognese, Italy.

That's, at least in part, because one is a French thoroughbred and the other an Italian one. I'm sure they could be manufactured in alternate, more economically sound, locations but I'm guessing that's not the point of the exercise.

I acknowledge, G87 ain't no Chiron or Huracan Performante, but it's the principle I'm talking about not so much the event.
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You can picture owning "a true M car" made in Mexico. All it takes is an open mind.

You know where else they use those KUKA Robots Artemis?

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This the M2 that's going to be made in Mexico? I can't picture owning a true M car that's not made in the motherland. This is really BMW's last hope tho for this new generation of recapturing those repulsed by the g8x platform

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I guess it isn't so much a question of how good will it be if made in Mexico but rather nostalgia; After all, German thoroughbreds should be German.

Having said that, Mexicans made this:



https://www.auto123.com/en/news/amp/...1400-hp/61559/
Well that's a shame, because you guys would be closing yourself off to some pretty amazing cars IMHO. My list would include the Z3M, Z4M and all the X3/5M's.

I've driven the majority of M's, and my Z4M Roadster is absolutely a highlight. And no one is going to convince me a Z4M is NOT a thoroughbred. I'd even consider replacing my truck with an X3M LCI if something happened to it.

If this is indeed the very last small BMW M ever made with a 6MT, I couldn't care less where they assemble it. There are far more important deal breakers than that IMO.
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