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      06-13-2014, 02:07 PM   #265
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I didn't like +2.75 psi over stock, changed it to +3.25 psi over stock, and I must say car is way louder and more responsive. Going to keep it at +3.25psi for now, probably the best way to go, I can definitely feel over 600 horses at the wheels.

PS: I messaged Dinan, and asked about their tune and top speed limiter, here is the response

The M6 tune is still being finalized but considering it is the exact same engine as the M5 I think it would be safe to assume that the Stage 1 will produce the same numbers (610HP, 605 lb-ft of torque). These are all crank number as that is how BMW measures their power numbers. Stock M6 numbers are 560HP and 500 lb-ft of torque by the way.

In regards to the top speed limiter being removed… at this time the D-TRONICS Performance Tuner does not remove the speed governor however it is sophisticated and is designed to integrate into ALL systems. That means that when/if the top speed governor is eliminated amongst a myriad of other possibilities that the unit is already capable of implementing the feature with a quick update to the software via Bluetooth.

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610hp crank is extremely bad for such a high price in my opinion, my best dyno result with BMS was 622 horses at the wheels, which is 715hp crank. Not bad, considering that BMS costs under $500
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I didn't like +2.75 psi over stock, changed it to +3.25 psi over stock, and I must say car is way louder and more responsive. Going to keep it at +3.25psi for now, probably the best way to go, I can definitely feel over 600 horses at the wheels.

PS: I messaged Dinan, and asked about their tune and top speed limiter, here is the response

The M6 tune is still being finalized but considering it is the exact same engine as the M5 I think it would be safe to assume that the Stage 1 will produce the same numbers (610HP, 605 lb-ft of torque). These are all crank number as that is how BMW measures their power numbers. Stock M6 numbers are 560HP and 500 lb-ft of torque by the way.

In regards to the top speed limiter being removed… at this time the D-TRONICS Performance Tuner does not remove the speed governor however it is sophisticated and is designed to integrate into ALL systems. That means that when/if the top speed governor is eliminated amongst a myriad of other possibilities that the unit is already capable of implementing the feature with a quick update to the software via Bluetooth.

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610hp crank is extremely bad for such a high price in my opinion, my best dyno result with BMS was 622 horses at the wheels, which is 715hp crank. Not bad, considering that BMS costs under $500
I wonder what it would be with the Comp Package, since HP is 575...
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I daily on the old firmware at 2.5 x 1.44 = 3.6 PSI right now on 91 Octane in Los Angeles, CA
Joey you have a CP m6 with the same mods as I do, did you ever get it it dyno'd at you're current BMS settings ? Any performance numbers (60-130 or 1/4 mile , Vbox , etc ) from both 2.25 and 2.5? I just wonder if you're trading low end torque for high end power bc of knock detection . I've been running mine on the stock new firmware 3.0 settings and have had modest performance gains but nothing earth shattering .
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I didn't like +2.75 psi over stock, changed it to +3.25 psi over stock, and I must say car is way louder and more responsive. Going to keep it at +3.25psi for now, probably the best way to go, I can definitely feel over 600 horses at the wheels.

PS: I messaged Dinan, and asked about their tune and top speed limiter, here is the response

The M6 tune is still being finalized but considering it is the exact same engine as the M5 I think it would be safe to assume that the Stage 1 will produce the same numbers (610HP, 605 lb-ft of torque). These are all crank number as that is how BMW measures their power numbers. Stock M6 numbers are 560HP and 500 lb-ft of torque by the way.

In regards to the top speed limiter being removed… at this time the D-TRONICS Performance Tuner does not remove the speed governor however it is sophisticated and is designed to integrate into ALL systems. That means that when/if the top speed governor is eliminated amongst a myriad of other possibilities that the unit is already capable of implementing the feature with a quick update to the software via Bluetooth.

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610hp crank is extremely bad for such a high price in my opinion, my best dyno result with BMS was 622 horses at the wheels, which is 715hp crank. Not bad, considering that BMS costs under $500
I read somewhere where someone dyno'ed a stock M6 and it was 580-585hp to the wheels. I don't understand how their tune would only produce 610hp to the crank. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless I am way off track here.

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Don't try to set BMS to +3.25 over stock, just got a very bad drive train malfunction, couldn't get my car to drive for 25 mins, when I finally got the car to drive, brought it home, change psi from +3.25 to +.2.75, added more engine oil, added the best fuel without ethanol, and drove for the car for a bit. Now the check engine light is gone, car runs fine.
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Don't try to set BMS to +3.25 over stock, just got a very bad drive train malfunction, couldn't get my car to drive for 25 mins, when I finally got the car to drive, brought it home, change psi from +3.25 to +.2.75, added more engine oil, added the best fuel without ethanol, and drove for the car for a bit. Now the check engine light is gone, car runs fine.
Same problem here but I don't think is the transmission fault, u should have misfire on a few cylinder check your code is still in the ecu. Terry suggested to gap the spark plug smaller 1st, btw I'm running fine with 4psi but got the misfire when I try to run 4.5psi with 98ron plus 2bottle of +6ron octane booster.( I was doing fine with 1bottle & 4psi)
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      06-14-2014, 04:26 PM   #273
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Same problem here but I don't think is the transmission fault, u should have misfire on a few cylinder check your code is still in the ecu. Terry suggested to gap the spark plug smaller 1st, btw I'm running fine with 4psi but got the misfire when I try to run 4.5psi with 98ron plus 2bottle of +6ron octane booster.( I was doing fine with 1bottle & 4psi)
bro, +4 PSI is WAAAY too much. My car didn't like +3.25. I will be selling my car in sept or oct, for now I'll keep my settings at +2.75 psi lol
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2013 McLaren MP-4, since 650s came out, the price for MP-4 is not bad at all! And it's just a lil slower than bugatti, factory uprated mp-4 kills the aventador.
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2013 McLaren MP-4, since 650s came out, the price for MP-4 is not bad at all! And it's just a lil slower than bugatti, factory uprated mp-4 kills the aventador.
Not to thread hijack, but what's involved in the factory updating that's so desirable? I hear those MP4-12C's are very daily drivable.....
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bro, +4 PSI is WAAAY too much. My car didn't like +3.25. I will be selling my car in sept or oct, for now I'll keep my settings at +2.75 psi lol
Yeah good call. The car can run higher boost but without adjusting the air/fuel mix for more fuel who knows when and how long you will be able to ride like that. If you drive hard a lot then it's best to have it at 2.75 and have no worries. If someone cracks the dme and we can adjust the fuel levels then +1000 LOL. That is why Dinan's tune is pathetic.
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Yeah good call. The car can run higher boost but without adjusting the air/fuel mix for more fuel who knows when and how long you will be able to ride like that. If you drive hard a lot then it's best to have it at 2.75 and have no worries. If someone cracks the dme and we can adjust the fuel levels then +1000 LOL. That is why Dinan's tune is pathetic.
Agreed, Dinan's tune is a joke; A very expensive piggy back with +10whp realistically, but you get their fancy 2 year "warranty" lol. I wouldn't pay more than $500 for a tune unless someone really cracks the code, and removes the top speed limiter with no probs.
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bro, +4 PSI is WAAAY too much. My car didn't like +3.25. I will be selling my car in sept or oct, for now I'll keep my settings at +2.75 psi lol
Bro, did u chk whether any fault code left in the dme? Bcos I also like to know how the transmission response to the extra TO.
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Bro, did u chk whether any fault code left in the dme? Bcos I also like to know how the transmission response to the extra TO.
Check engine light was on for a few hrs, but now it's gone. I would have to book an appointment with BMW to check for error codes. Last time I checked for error codes, BMW charged me $134.5
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bro, +4 PSI is WAAAY too much. My car didn't like +3.25. I will be selling my car in sept or oct, for now I'll keep my settings at +2.75 psi lol
Bro, I thought of sharing these with you as a car lover.

It was posted about 2 hours ago at N54forum. I believe he has the fastest M6 now at 11.07s 1/4 mile.

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I believe that's where you had the problem. Try setting it at 4.5 again, but do a third gear pull, gradually to open throttle all the way to red line, then cruise for a bit and do it again. Try this a couple of times then do a fourth gear pull this is a longer gear and give the MAFs a longer adaption run. Then park the car for a while and do it again. By the second to third day you will feel the difference and you shouldn't have any problems.

Also I'm always running in M1traction control off S3 shift. After a couple of days of adapting you can drive how ever you want. Also with the dct you want to be in the closest gear if you decide to down shift for example not fifth to third will have a delay. Another good note be in a gear you want to race and then hit it that way the MAFs dont have any surprises. But like I said once she's adapted you can drive any way you want.

100 octane fuel
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Or pump 93 with 50/50 water meth mix
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93 pump 100% meth
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100 octane 100% meth
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Good luck!

Sound super! I will try it out this Friday & hope that it works on my car, I'm very very disappointed that day after the misfire, I move over from N55 6series GC to a M6 GC just b cos of power different. The car body is exactly the same & I have spend a lot of time n effort on it, after knowing the limits of the N55 I have no choice but to move over to a M6. Now that u have shine some lights to it really make me feel more confident on the car again! Thanks so much n hope that you break into the 10s soon.


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Bro, I thought of sharing these with you as a car lover.

It was posted about 2 hours ago at N54forum. I believe he has the fastest M6 now at 11.07s 1/4 mile.

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I believe that's where you had the problem. Try setting it at 4.5 again, but do a third gear pull, gradually to open throttle all the way to red line, then cruise for a bit and do it again. Try this a couple of times then do a fourth gear pull this is a longer gear and give the MAFs a longer adaption run. Then park the car for a while and do it again. By the second to third day you will feel the difference and you shouldn't have any problems.

Also I'm always running in M1traction control off S3 shift. After a couple of days of adapting you can drive how ever you want. Also with the dct you want to be in the closest gear if you decide to down shift for example not fifth to third will have a delay. Another good note be in a gear you want to race and then hit it that way the MAFs dont have any surprises. But like I said once she's adapted you can drive any way you want.

100 octane fuel
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Or pump 93 with 50/50 water meth mix
5lb boost increase*

93 pump 100% meth
6lb boost runs strong

100 octane 100% meth
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Good luck!

Sound super! I will try it out this Friday & hope that it works on my car, I'm very very disappointed that day after the misfire, I move over from N55 6series GC to a M6 GC just b cos of power different. The car body is exactly the same & I have spend a lot of time n effort on it, after knowing the limits of the N55 I have no choice but to move over to a M6. Now that u have shine some lights to it really make me feel more confident on the car again! Thanks so much n hope that you break into the 10s soon.


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Hey man, actually fastest m5 with bms did 11.0 exactly, and m6 did 10.9 or something Would be sick to remove the top speed governor. After I got the drive train malfunction I drive on +2.75
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Mr-Karim, all you need is to let the car adapt on your boost increase.
You'll be fine, I've been running 6lb boost increase 100% meth 100 octane on my M6 with no issues an plenty of miles

Also been running 4lb boost increase 93 pump gas on my F10 M5 with no issues.

Key is letting the car adapt to new boost increase
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I agree with M6beast, I doubt the drivetrain malfunction had anything to do with the extra boost. I used to get that malfunction all the time in colder temps without a tune. Or when I went to higher speeds, so it could a multitude of problems.

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I started at 3 with 93, immediately after I gave it hard 2nd/3rd pulls then gave it a break. Then multiple hard pulls up to 160 and I have had no problems. It could also be a bad fuel issue.
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