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Hahaha like seriously I’m only entertaining that because it’s funny to watch you make excuses on a rare instance that this will not likely happen in an average ev buyer. Lmaooooo
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If you drove the camaro an average of 100 miles an hour, the Camaro will arrive in 30 hours. The tesla would have to drive an average of 158 miles an hour just to keep up, let alone beat it. Heat management will be harder for the Tesla than the camaro at those speeds, and your tesla has a rated top speed of only 140. There is a video of a model 3 at the nurburgring crossing the Finish with all kinds of temp alarms on the dash and reduced power, it never hit top speed, and that's only 20 some miles. Good luck ![]() Last edited by chad86tsi; 01-21-2023 at 12:40 PM.. |
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41 hours minus a half hour for you to get diesel is 40.5 hours of drive time to cover 3000 miles. You would need to average only 74 MPH. I don't know the top speed of your Dads Diesel, but other diesel olds had as-tested top speeds ~100, so 74 is not pushing it. Last edited by chad86tsi; 01-21-2023 at 02:01 PM.. |
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I am laughing. Because the model 3/Y is the best selling EV to this day. So what is your problem? EV's or teslas? Don't worry, BMW will have an entire EV line soon if you don't like tesla. Have fun with your ICE while you can. As for me, i have both EV and ICE so i'm happy. I have no care in the world for "road tripping" my tesla. Not because i don't think it can do it. But because if i needed to go cross country, i'd take a plane and get there in 6 hours. You're focusing on an extra 10-15 minutes during rest stops on a road trip where people do what? Every summer? as your number 1 argument that EV doesn't work today. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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I can’t possibly be the only one watching this thread with a side of popcorn.
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No matter how you slice it, your argument doesn't have any meaning besides it being filled with emotions, denial and hate for what is to come regardless. Have fun with your new EV soon.
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All while i'm stomping on all these shitty arguments. As if what they're saying will change what's to come. That's the fucking hilarious part about any thread with this type of subject. ![]()
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Here’s a math quiz for the whizzes on this thread.
Using round numbers, Ford has ~$35b in property, plant and equipment with a U.S. market share around 14%. Ford’s PPE has considerable depreciation on it, so if more recently acquired would be valued far higher on the balance sheet. The “fair value” of Ford’s PPE is a very large number of land acres, factory square feet and miles of assembly line. Tesla has approx $22b PPE, with U.S. market share less than 2%. Tesla’s PPE is newer in comparison to Ford’s so the current balance sheet value is the relevant comparator. Quiz question 1: how much investment is required for Tesla to achieve 14% market share in the U.S., which requires putting in place an approximately similar number of miles of assembly line as Ford? Quiz question 2 (for the liberal arts crowd): what will the competitive response be from Ford, Stellantis, Toyota, GM, Honda, VAG, MB and BMW in the U.S. if Tesla starts trying to scale the mountain of investment the math whizzes calculated in question 1., above? Answers due in 24 hours. This is a non-proctored quiz. Good luck. Ford is used as an illustrative example only. |
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There are people who road trip EVs. When shopping for an EV they look at range amounts, charging speeds, and charge curves(more so the latter two). Side note: Taycan with 93.4kwh pack and it's 800v system is the best road tripping EV, charge speed and curve is unmatched. Last edited by M3WC; 01-22-2023 at 01:16 AM.. |
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Evidently you've never seen a mustang gas tank.
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There are ICE cars out there that have ridiculously small tanks for the size/mileage/power of the car, simply a play to try and reduce the weight, but significantly smaller than contemporaries. I don't consider these cars for the same reason, just not practical to be filling up a bunch more times on a road trip or hell, during the week. More of an issue with ICE too, since you can't fill them at home with your gas-line. Anyway, it's something I do think of and consider.
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His sole argument was set on road tripping. I don't know of any person who has an EV, or is looking to buy one, that it's main purpose for that purchase IS TO ROAD TRIP. A road trip is not even top 3 of what to do with their car, not even top 5. I had my model 3 almost a year now and i don't even have thoughts about road tripping the car. If i ever wanted to road trip, i'd go up in the air instead and fly. There are tons and tons of people on youtube that actually road trip their model 3 with zero issues. A lot of the really long journeys, it's always the same pattern, THEY GET OUT AND STRETCH, walk around, eat snacks, go to the bathroom. There are not rushing out of their car, filling up with gas, and then running back in the car, launch control out of the gas station just so they can say that pit stop was only 2 minutes and it's so convenient. You're there for 15 minutes on average, 20-25 if you're just casually taking a break. The whole road trip argument doesn't work. Lots of EV drivers road trip with no issue. The tesla interface is PERFECTION when it tells you where to go for your next supercharger, how much juice you'll need to get there, what % approx you'll be at when you arrive, how many stalls, the KW, yada yada. This is no different than plugging in gas stations along your road trip route. The only difference is the extra 10-15 minutes or so per stop. It's a road trip, it's about enjoying the actual road trip experience. Not cannonball yourself and your family across country to set a record time. EV will come anyway so no sense in trying to debate this lol
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The fact that road trip is even in the discussion just goes to show they ran out of excuses lol.
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