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F82 is everything an M enthusiast could have hoped for with great power delivery and lightweight goodies, minus maybe the exhaust sound(which I personally like, but polarizing nonetheless).
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My perfect M car would be a roadgoing version of the E89 Z4. But as an M coupe with the s65 v8 engine. would dump my f80 in a heartbeat. The Z3M is a bit dated now and the S54 cars are a ton of money for what they are. The z4m is just plain ugly.
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If BMW weren't hamstrung by emissions regs and still had engineers at the helm they would be in a much better place. The f8x would of been a 4.5L N/A S68 or something similar. Most of their recent problems are entirely of their own making though (horrendous g8x design, dropping DCT, increased weight, garbage marketing etc.) Luckily M has a fantastic back catalog of cars to choose from. I think the M340i is actually the current sweet spot of the BMW lineup, the B58 is a fantastic engine. Great chassis, comfortable, quiet, good tech. Shame they dropped the manual. I really like my 330i for what it is. But when I look at M division now, nothing really appeals. I had an M2C and didn't gel with it, good car but overhyped. |
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Overall, I agree with the conclusion from bmwblog.com: "As the proud owner of the E90 pictured above and one who is frequently guilty of ///M nostalgia, this author really has nothing to gain from capitulation, but resistance is futile. The M4 is so clearly superior to the E9X generation M3 in every performance area. And not only that, the M4 is just as playful and fun as the E9X or any past generation." And I would put the M2C as even better the F8x in terms of driving experience. |
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On weight, a stripper E92 M3 weighs basically the same as an F8x M3/M4. I understand why people like the f8x though, and from a performance standpoint its certainly a big step change. It's just not clear cut to me that its better.. |
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I don't love the E90 but I think the E92 still looks great. The F80 has grown on me over time, but I still don't love the hood line and the bumper still strikes me as busy. Side and rear views are money. Owed an E92 and still own an F80.
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Being remembered does not mean a design will age well (Pontiac, 996, etc). In contrast even if the F80 has a forgettable design (which I don't agree on) does not mean that it wouldn't age well.
Plenty of BMW's like the X3, 5er or other brand's cars are forgettable in looks, but they age well over time due to the clean design. |
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There are some classic bpost overreactions on this thread. Someone even slagged the entire country of the UK in retaliation for the opinions of one English person
I actually agree with all of the article, save for not having an opinion on those cars i haven't driven myself. Yeah, it's kinda harsh on the F80, but not wrong. Although BMW's done it's best to fix some of the issues with the Comp/CS/GTS. Their broad opinions that the SUV's being “misses” are not wrong either, if being a "miss" means that they don't align with the M ethos. They don't. Doesn't mean that they can't be good vehicles that their owners enjoy, of course, but they're pretty far from what M was originally about. Last edited by Darth One; 12-18-2020 at 10:41 AM.. |
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The e92M still looks fresh w/ timeless appeal & proportions .... not the e90 nor e93.
F80- We'll see how it looks in 10 years if it can hold up like the e92 has. This G80 is an abomination sorry to say
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As others have said I think the E92 is the real looker, second only to the E46 coupe, which is the best looking 3er of all time IMO. Man there's a lot of 996 slander on this page. It's the most underrated and needlessly maligned 911 of all time, I will die on this hill! (And I swear it's not because I'm actively searching for its 986 lil bro...)
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