Firearms

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

If you don't like firearms that's fine. Just move on. We've kept this thread civil for a long time. Have a nice day.

I didn't say that I don't like firearms? Was just musing on the chance to put them to some good, but of course the personal risk in doing so is very high.

There's guys venturing into the Ukraine armed with only a bus, to pick up refugees from the cities under fire. Incredible bravery.

[Blacktemplar]

I think it takes real courage to run towards danger. My cousin is ex Special Forces, served in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan. Came home and joined the Police as an undercover drugs squad officer, and later chose to go back to Kandahar to train Afghan troops. Now he’s retired, he’s heavily involved with disaster relief as part of Team Rubicon.

Oddly enough he’s very strongly against owning and carrying firearms - perhaps as a result of years of experience seeing what they are capable of in the wrong hands.

[///d]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

I didn't say that I don't like firearms? Was just musing on the chance to put them to some good, but of course the personal risk in doing so is very high.

There's guys venturing into the Ukraine armed with only a bus, to pick up refugees from the cities under fire. Incredible bravery.

A good friend of mine is a dual citizen with Poland, and she is raising money to help her family back home in Poland provide basic and medical supplies to various towns and villages in Ukraine. They load up their box trucks and cross into Ukraine to deliver whatever they can as often as they can, unarmed.

[TiMSport]

It's really upsetting to see the tragedy taking place in Ukraine. Putin doesn't care and his forces are attacking children's hospitals! Yeah, if only someone could make use of their marksmanship to take out a certain dictator.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by ///d

A good friend of mine is a dual citizen with Poland, and she is raising money to help her family back home in Poland provide basic and medical supplies to various towns and villages in Ukraine. They load up their box trucks and cross into Ukraine to deliver whatever they can as often as they can, unarmed.

The Poles are doing amazing things in this, a proper lesson in humanity. They've let 1m+ flood across the border (rightly) and this stupid little island is struggling to process a few thousand with our government making all sorts of weak excuses.

But, yes, the Poles - incredible individual acts of humanity and bravery.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

It's really upsetting to see the tragedy taking place in Ukraine. Putin doesn't care and his forces are attacking children's hospitals! Yeah, if only someone could make use of their marksmanship to take out a certain dictator.

Trouble is the bloated sh1tweasel is hiding in a bunker and is no doubt the most protected person on the planet now. Line of sight and a Barrett .50 cal - now that’s the perfect combo!

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

Trouble is the bloated sh1tweasel is hiding in a bunker and is no doubt the most protected person on the planet now. Line of sight and a Barrett .50 cal - now that’s the perfect combo!

Ahh the "wall destroyer" Barret .50 cal.
Yeah, that POS paranoid weakling is hiding out while Zelenskyy continuously shows his face in public and proving himself to be the real man IMO.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Ahh the "wall destroyer" Barret .50 cal.
Yeah, that POS paranoid weakling is hiding out while Zelenskyy continuously shows his face in public and proving himself to be the real man IMO.

The sniper scene in Hurt Locker is one of my favourite film scenes. Awesome bit of kit. I guess Joe Public isn’t allowed to just walk into a gun store and buy something like that?

Over here you can’t even buy a BB gun without a police check and a license. Mind you, it’s probably why we don’t have tens of thousands of gun deaths every year

[ezaircon4jc]

Getting political here???

[Blacktemplar]

Yeah Zelenskyy has got real cojones. Seems like a bit of a character as well, amazing he was an actor & comedian just two or three years ago.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

The sniper scene in Hurt Locker is one of my favourite film scenes. Awesome bit of kit. I guess Joe Public isn’t allowed to just walk into a gun store and buy something like that?

Over here you can’t even buy a BB gun without a police check and a license. Mind you, it’s probably why we don’t have tens of thousands of gun deaths every year

Correct on both accounts. Yes, that was a great movie and scene for sure. Intense AF.

Oh and just to show you how strange the US is (IMO), the state of Tennessee declared this sniper rifle its "official state rifle" whatever the hell that means.

[boba-fett]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

It's really upsetting to see the tragedy taking place in Ukraine. Putin doesn't care and his forces are attacking children's hospitals! Yeah, if only someone could make use of their marksmanship to take out a certain dictator.

Its actually getting really bad, far worse than we probably envisaged. Its almost as though Putin is Goading the West into getting involved.

Really worrying, because what other lowest of the low atrocities will it take before our governments say enough is enough, the gloves are off!

We will all get a gun for free then.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Getting political here???

Yes, you're probably right. We need to avoid going off the rails with this.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Correct on both accounts. Yes, that was a great movie and scene for sure. Intense AF.

Oh and just to show you how strange the US is (IMO), the state of Tennessee declared this sniper rifle its "official state rifle" whatever the hell that means.

I think it was Churchill who said we were “two nations divided by the same language” - lots of things in common, but just as many that neither understand about each others’ cultural norms.

[sahajesh]

Out of curiosity, what's needed to get a gun licence in the UK? Some form of sponsorship from a gun club/member/police interview etc?

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Yes, you're probably right. We need to avoid going off the rails with this.

Absolutely - it’s hard to tiptoe around emotive subjects like war, but I guess we need to try

[boba-fett]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

The sniper scene in Hurt Locker is one of my favourite film scenes. Awesome bit of kit. I guess Joe Public isn’t allowed to just walk into a gun store and buy something like that?

Over here you can’t even buy a BB gun without a police check and a license. Mind you, it’s probably why we don’t have tens of thousands of gun deaths every year

Don't under estimate BB guns from the UK, if you buy a good one, and if you are hit by it really close up, it can still smart a bit !!

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

I think it was Churchill who said we were “two nations divided by the same language” - lots of things in common, but just as many that neither understand about each others’ cultural norms.

Yep. Just to keep this in line with the subject matter of firearms, that aforementioned beast of a rifle has an effective range of 1.1 miles (1,800 meters)!!

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

Out of curiosity, what's needed to get a gun licence in the UK? Some form of sponsorship from a gun club/member/police interview etc?

Something like that - one of my mates used to shoot for the Scottish Commonwealth squad, and I remember him saying owning a firearm - even a small-bore competition piece - was a complete nightmare

[TiMSport]

I think a fellow member M5Rick knows all about this.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Yep. Just to keep this in line with the subject matter of firearms, that aforementioned beast of a rifle has an effective range of 1.1 miles (1,800 meters)!!

Is it the Dragunov that’s the Russian equivalent, or is that a smaller bore weapon? I remember seeing that in “American Sniper” - another awesome film.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by boba-fett

Don't under estimate BB guns from the UK, if you buy a good one, and if you are hit by it really close up, it can still smart a bit !!

Try telling that to rabbits & crows. Fortunately we don’t get anything as pestilential as coyotes here. Even the foxes are semi-tame round our way