F1 2021: Saudi Arabian GP - Jeddah (Dec 5)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Well FIA be doing FIA things, but the cars still do go through scrutineering just not that random full year down. But still if Mercedes is banking on them not fully checking to cheat, they're risking a DQ when a check occurs. Then right after a massive lawsuit when everyone else finds out.

They did inspect the wings as per RB's request and standard load testing, no issues.

As for the plenum I believe redbull raised concerns but the temp sensors were in the correct place as per the FIA. If RB is still concerned they could at any time request further testing.

There was a new load test that was shelved by Fia I believe but it was 'too late in the season' for them to check the Merc r/wing,a very weak explanation.

[M5Rick]

Marko has played down dominance of Merc on the straight, ''what is actually here are fast corners'' so for this reason the rocket engine Merc are threatening to fit to car 44 is not a huge concern.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

There was a new load test that was shelved by Fia I believe but it was 'too late in the season' for them to check the Merc r/wing,a very weak explanation.

The test in Qatar was already increased in spec, and RB was satisfied so that's all that matters since RB was the one who brought up this query.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Marko has played down dominance of Merc on the straight, ''what is actually here are fast corners'' so for this reason the rocket engine Merc are threatening to fit to car 44 is not a huge concern.

We will see in a couple of hours. But this track has massive straights as well, so it is a blend of both, and the mercedes seems to be fast in the high speed corners as well. So I guess talk is cheap, we will see what happens in quali and that should be a decent reflection of the race. Guess that will also show if marko is just talking nonsense like he usually does or if he is right this time.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

We will see in a couple of hours. But this track has massive straights as well, so it is a blend of both, and the mercedes seems to be fast in the high speed corners as well. So I guess talk is cheap, we will see what happens in quali and that should be a decent reflection of the race. Guess that will also show if marko is just talking nonsense like he usually does or if he is right this time.

That makes sense to me what Marko comments and if only Wolff was more forthcoming with his info rather than just that he'll be pulling the pin out of the grenade lol how hilarious.

[M5Rick]

1997 F1 champ Villeneuve has said it will be better for F1 if Max wins the title joining the growing numbers who think Ham getting another title would be unfair while Schumacher lies paralysed.
''Max is not politically correct, doesn't care what others say and is here to race.Lewis is more concerned with his image and very active on social media''

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

That makes sense to me what Marko comments and if only Wolff was more forthcoming with his info rather than just that he'll be pulling the pin out of the grenade lol how hilarious.

No the issue is the no benefit statement in particular, that's not true on a track with massive straights along with high speed corners. Here's why:

1) Yes the speed delta is not massive between RB and Merc, but on a long straight ever km/h increase results in tangible time gains. Hence why teams are trying to balance downforce and drag.

2) This brings in a second point, with more power you can change trade that for more downforce and take the extra drag without penalty. So you can match an opponent's top speed and pack more downforce for even better cornering.


So overall the more powerful pu should be a factor that is non negligible.

[3798j]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

That's what I was thinking to but even if that was the case, saying he is a very poor racer does not hold water given his results.

Didn't think my choice of words (poor) would confuse. Let's try these (for clarity): sloppy, reckless, illegal, and bad-mannered. While leading the WDC in points and winning GP's can only be done by driving fast...which is where he shines, it doesn't mean he races with class.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

No the issue is the no benefit statement in particular, that's not true on a track with massive straights along with high speed corners. Here's why:

1) Yes the speed delta is not massive between RB and Merc, but on a long straight ever km/h increase results in tangible time gains. Hence why teams are trying to balance downforce and drag.

2) This brings in a second point, with more power you can change trade that for more downforce and take the extra drag without penalty. So you can match an opponent's top speed and pack more downforce for even better cornering.


So overall the more powerful pu should be a factor that is non negligible.

So what we know is that Ham will have his Brazil PU in and from Q2 the setting for that will have to be used on the race together with that tyre choice.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

That's what I was thinking to but even if that was the case, saying he is a very poor racer does not hold water given his results.

I agree and no one gets good results by being a poor racer, for sure saying Max is a poor racer makes little sense.

[M5Rick]

Jos was asked if Toto is a bad loser.''You could say that, yes.Mercedes were leading for years, of course.Now they are cornered for the first time and you see a different Toto. A pity, but that's how you get to know people.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I agree and no one gets good results by being a poor racer, for sure saying Max is a poor racer makes little sense.

FP3 starts in 20 ..

Horner : It's Interesting to see another Mercedes rear wing ...
If the cheating wing was approved by the FIA , and if the FIA was too late with a new test ..
So why changed Mercedes the cheating DRS wing anyway ..

And why is the Mercedes rear squat suspension Isn't working during the FP sessions ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

FP3 starts in 20 ..

Horner : It's Interesting to see another Mercedes rear wing ...
If the cheating wing was approved by the FIA , and if the FIA was too late with a new test ..
So why changed Mercedes the cheating DRS wing anyway ..

And why is the Mercedes rear squat suspension Isn't working during the FP sessions ...

''Special dispensation'' from the rulers to the Mib, for politically correct reasons.

[M5Rick]

Ferrari must have been busting a gut rebuilding Chas's wreck, wonder if he got a new tub ..

[Bongoxxx]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Jos was asked if Toto is a bad loser.''You could say that, yes.Mercedes were leading for years, of course.Now they are cornered for the first time and you see a different Toto. A pity, but that's how you get to know people.

LOL - coming from a guy who regularly beats women, yes you do get to know people

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Bongoxxx

LOL - coming from a guy who regularly beats women, yes you do get to know people

He wasn't referring to a woman

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Ferrari must have been busting a gut rebuilding Chas's wreck, wonder if he got a new tub ..

I heard that Charlie got a new floor at Jeddah prior to the crash ..

Charlie ran wide over the curbs and suddenly he lost it in no time .
I think the new updated floor is unpredictable and it changed the cars behaviour completely ..

[M5Rick]

It's only final practice guys!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I heard that Charlie got a new floor at Jeddah prior to the crash ..

Charlie ran wide over the curbs and suddenly he lost it in no time .
I think the new updated floor is unpredictable and it changed the cars behaviour completely ..

It didn't look like a big crash but the car just went to pieces.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's only final practice guys!

*****

[///M Power-Belgium]

Today BOT is the Mercedes test mule..

[Bubbles]

Money on him getting a new ICE. He has a “problem” ending FP3 early.

Hammy needs to avoid staying on the race line in what he refers to as the “danger zone”. Almost caused two big shunts back to back.

Classic do as I say not as I do.