F1 2020: Russian GP - Sochi (Sep 27)

[M5Rick]

so if Red Bull's systems are not good enough.. its Merc's fault my friend?[/QUOTE]

Your words that refers to queer Sochi track.Easy to say now that Honda made announcement but think ahead that in '22 only 3 engine manufacturers and Dominacelli himself doubting more manufacturers entering because of Government soon to be sanctions on new fuel cars *(there are doubts that it can be done as they say, and opposition is growing.I myself have joined an action group against this).
To tailor back a monster teams advantage I can only see success ballast being brought in if the situation continues, as you know my friend it's used in other motorsports so F1 can't be excluded just because it's so called 'pinnacle'.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

^ I'm sure I'm more a fan than you give credit for and I do give praise where it's due. If it was as clear cut as you perceive then indeed it would be more shall we say fair.
Again I go back to what I've been saying all along largely ignored that Merc have always had the 2-3 odd years advantage with the hybrid in pace and tractability as they knew it was coming while the others didn't.
In the meantime in the quest for fairness I think it's reasonable to make suggestions to make the racing more competitive for others rather than having a 'one man show' (which has been going on for far too long) most of the time with an obviously subserviant teammate making the racing for HAM a cakewalk.
Thanks.

This is from RaceCar Engineering 6 years ago in 2014 regarding Cosworth and their PU. Please notice the stated timeline for the Power Units. Mercedes had no advantage. It was all known to any interested party. Including VW who insisted on an I4 ICE configuration which is relevant to their product line. The ICE configuration was changed to V-6 in 2011 AFTER VW decided to stay away from Formula One, once again.

Mercedes simply did a better job than everyone else. Good on them and shame on everyone else. You don't punish the valedictorian of the class because there are 5 slapdicks who can't learn their schoolwork.

Cheers-MK

[///M Power-Belgium]

RB HONDA got "Clipping" at Sochi => https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...sochi/4883663/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

RB HONDA got "Clipping" at Sochi => https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...sochi/4883663/

Yes the 'few heavy braking zones and long flat sections' of Sochi as written there was the underlining factor of Max's loss to BOT on the straight running out of the 160bhp extra because the recovery system could not keep up and as stated a loss of 6/10ths sec over a lap.

[yco]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

This is from RaceCar Engineering 6 years ago in 2014 regarding Cosworth and their PU. Please notice the stated timeline for the Power Units. Mercedes had no advantage. It was all known to any interested party. Including VW who insisted on an I4 ICE configuration which is relevant to their product line. The ICE configuration was changed to V-6 in 2011 AFTER VW decided to stay away from Formula One, once again.

Mercedes simply did a better job than everyone else. Good on them and shame on everyone else. You don't punish the valedictorian of the class because there are 5 slapdicks who can't learn their schoolwork.

Cheers-MK

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=MKSixer;26764741]This is from RaceCar Engineering 6 years ago in 2014 regarding Cosworth and their PU. Please notice the stated timeline for the Power Units. Mercedes had no advantage. It was all known to any interested party. Including VW who insisted on an I4 ICE configuration which is relevant to their product line. The ICE configuration was changed to V-6 in 2011 AFTER VW decided to stay away from Formula One, once again.

Mercedes simply did a better job than everyone else. Good on them and shame on everyone else. You don't punish the valedictorian of the class because there are 5 slapdicks who can't learn their schoolwork.

*So just all because VW didn't want to continue...with what engine the V8? FIA changed it to V6 hybrid.How convenient.
Then how come Lauda told Montemezollo in confidence that Merc were ALREADY WORKING on a hybrid V6 way back in 2007 as I have already written.

[M5Rick]

*Montezemolo

[MKSixer]

[QUOTE=M5theonlyone;26766772]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

This is from RaceCar Engineering 6 years ago in 2014 regarding Cosworth and their PU. Please notice the stated timeline for the Power Units. Mercedes had no advantage. It was all known to any interested party. Including VW who insisted on an I4 ICE configuration which is relevant to their product line. The ICE configuration was changed to V-6 in 2011 AFTER VW decided to stay away from Formula One, once again.

Mercedes simply did a better job than everyone else. Good on them and shame on everyone else. You don't punish the valedictorian of the class because there are 5 slapdicks who can't learn their schoolwork.

*So just all because VW didn't want to continue...with what engine the V8? FIA changed it in a flash to V6 hybrid.How convenient.
Then how come Lauda told Montemezollo in confidence that Merc were ALREADY WORKING on a hybrid V6 way back in 2007 as I have already written.

Source?

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=MKSixer;26767220]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Source?

Ok,go to Grandprix247 Report 1 February 2017
or punch in Montezemolo:Mercedes worked on their engine since 2007

[MKSixer]

[QUOTE=M5theonlyone;26767466]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Ok,go to Grandprix247 Report 1 February 2017
or punch in Montezemolo:Mercedes worked on their engine since 2007

Montezemolo making excuses for the lack of performance from Ferrari isn't a credible source. Sorry...this is typical Ferrari excuse making.

The FACTS are that the proposed rules were for an I4 turbo hybrid configuration which was dropped when VW decided to stay out of Formula One. This can be verified in the FIA notes about the entire time period.

Luca Cordero di Montezemolo is NOT a credible source.