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this thread is giving me a lot to think about. I'm on a 5k OCI, started with OEM 5-30, then to 0-30 as 5-30 was discontinued, and my Blackstone basically looks like this all the OEM oil reports posted here.
I'm debating if I want to move on to Molygen 5-40. Can anyone confirm this is the oil being used by people here? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/5w4...i-moly-lm20232 Anyways, my driving style has changed significantly. Car no longer is DD and when it comes out, it is driven hard, after oil temps are up to 220 of course. I see the shear on the 5-40 and 5-30 Liqui Moly is certainly better, but ultimately, I'm leaning to sticking with OEM 0-30 for the cold flow properties as 0-30 SUS still shears down to a 30 weight oil, albeit barely, but the cST is at 9.5 which is great for a lot of the around the town, short distance low throttle driving. Report also shows minimum metals, no fuel in oil, plenty of moly. Any thoughts?
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What do you think of your moly reading? All the OEM 0-30 reports show double the count of moly in the oil than Liqui Moly 5-40.
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I'm attaching my Blackstone report. I'm somewhat flattered by the "spectacular" verbiage used by them. My car is fairly modified and even though I don't track the car, it is seeing redline routinely. I am pleased that the S63TU is holding up without a hiccup and I'm also very pleased with the results of the Special Tec 5W/30. It's been a great oil for the last 10,000 miles on this car.
I've reached out to Liqui Moly and they were interested in having someone discuss their oils a bit more on the forums but I'm not sure that would be allowed here given they aren't a sponsor. Thought it would be helpful for us here, especially those of us really looking for long term guidance on how to keep these engines happy. I know my M6 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. -m
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I jut ordered another batch of 5W40 LiquiMoly Molygen it will be my 3rd oil change with it ,I also have an oil analysis kit I will send in /the only downside is my oil only has around 2K miles on it ,I dont go over that, we can see what the difference is with an earlier change vs a 5k change,
The oil has been great so far I dont have to add any oil for the 2k intervals, I only install the 9 liters it calls for, Im running a DME stage 3 tune with burbles ,im actually curious to see if there is any excessive fuel in the oil due to the tune, but so far everything is great , I nicknamed the oil Predators blood!
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The purpose of molybdenum is to provide a dry friction material, and its counted as a wear agent. the reason i see the moly oil having less of it in the oil that is drained is because the moly is actually micro polishing the metals. that is both good and bad. you want the metal to be rough enough for oil to stick and grab on, while being still smooth for low friction. its bad for moly to over micro polish because then the oil never actually grabs the metal and its is just the molybdenum finish that is the lubricant. Seeing the lower levels of molybdenum would indicate to me there is low cold start wear occurring since molybdenum is typically worn in the cold start segment of oil lubrication. I am no expert in this stuff, but that is what i have come across in my research thus far.
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ok guys here is the latest update
short answer change over to redline 5W-50! Long answer: check the report and google doc for results and comparisons https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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I just changed my oil but its ok I like doing it LOL ,I also just sent in my oil to see how my engine is doing im using Liquimoly Molygen 5w40 .To me it sounds like Blackstone was favoring the Redline due to some of those higher numbers of those specific additives
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I put the same amount of oil in on the oil change and again right in the middle. but 9.5 bottles of the redline should bring it to max on the electronic dipstick. side note doing a liqui moly molygen 5w-40 oil change on a friends M5 putting in 9.5 bottles brought him to max as well. He will be changing over to redline i think in the future as his car consumes a quart every 800 miles. car is driven pretty hard but still i find that 800 miles is a bit excessive in consumption.
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I believe Liquimoly is distributed in liters, and Redline is in quarts
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I am unsure what is wrong with his car that it eats oil so badly. The only things i can think of are valve seals, turbos, or the rings sadly. Car still stock and it doesnt smoke either.
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These are off fcpeuro.com The only difference is the upper connector to the air box channel. instead of 4 finger tabs it has a circular connector you press together to release. and i believe the inner vent seal a little better than the earlier style ones.
BMW Vent Hose (Cylinders 1-4) - Genuine BMW 11157843150 BMW Vent Hose (Cylinders 5-8) - Genuine BMW 11157843151
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Finally did an analysis with Blackstone on my car and got the results back, posting up here for an additional data point on the LiquiMoly 5W-40 Molygen oil. Very pleased with the lack of metals found and the elevated Molybdenum anti-wear content still present in the oil
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looks pretty good, try stepping up to a 50 weight oil and the thinning oil at higher temps should be alleviated. I saw that in my past runs the oil does thin out at high temps in these engines and so far, only having 1 report on redline 5w-50, I have seen my viscosity come into proper spec and not thinning out at temp
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I don't stretch that often now to 5k, but next change I was thinking of going a little longer on the interval maybe 4500 or so. I think the redline so far is my favorite.
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Got it -- I think my interval was around 4600 miles for my report so I would be very interested to see yours at 4500. Keep me posted. I know it's not necessarily apples to apples as IIRC you're somewhat heavily tuned, but if anything I would think that the oil in your car would get more beat up than a stock car all other things held constant. If it performs well in that use case, probably safe to assume it would also perform well in a stock, unmodified car
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I would agree that if this oil can withstand the nature of the car under heavier load from having a more aggressive tune over stock, I'd rule that the 5W-50 would be good for unmodified as well. It is well known that these engines run rather hot, and the key to longevity is maintaining a cool temperature. I do notice that the oil takes longer to warm up and retains more heat, but the other side is that the oil does not thin out once it reaches its normal hot state.
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