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07-09-2012, 05:07 AM | #1 |
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Ignition: 2013 BMW M6 Convertible (F12): When Power and Weight Fight, Who Wins?
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Again, with the sports car thinking....sigh. It is NOT a sports car!
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As amazing as the M6 is as a car overall (technological/engineering standpoint), all I got out of this video was having a M variant is pointless.
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Love the M6! Great Video!
As far as the whole M Division debate, just actually read an article on Jalopnik saying something similar. I feel the M6 is still being judged as a sports car (coming from the old one with its high-revving v10 ) when its turning more into the high powered GT similar to a CL63 or SL63. The m5's or E63's may be less of GT's as a CL or SL and m6 but are more so in that direction if you ask me. Its a different class arguably better or worse. We'll see how the m3/m4 is when it comes out. |
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It's not BMW using turbo's that's seems to be bringing the brand down, it's all the other parts of the car. Just speaking from a performance standpoint, you can achieve just about anything you can in a NA engine with a turbo with the added efficiency but with that, whether it's intentional or because of safety regulations, BMW seems to think they could add more weight.
I don't have a problem with the technology BMW is using in their cars. But I think they should consider what to put and in which models. Save the luxury/comfort-related things in the base-series and make the M models more reflective of their racing heritage. No more added computers to change the dampers, leave that for the base-series models and have M models use one suspension setup. It's disappointing to see BMW lose their way. It's different if the competition caught up and/or surpasses BMW. But to see BMW actually stumble and can't keep up with their own standards and allowing the competition to pass them that way is almost sad. |
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I read everyone reviews and no one seems to mention how absolutely enormous this car is. I was lucky enough to drive one (friends dad) and coming from my 335i which to be honest isn't really a small car either, I felt like I was driving a high powered tank. It is a wonder how this car can do what it does at this size, the series have just gotten so big from what they used to be.
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Stating that the Germans are copying the Corvette was just strange, and then pointing out it had a twin turbo V8 and a long hood (it's not that long) to backup his point didn't make much sense. I don't think he thought that statement through.
I think journalists were expecting the M5/M6 to defy physics and feel smaller than it is. Maybe expectations were running high since the E46, E9x M3s, and E39 and E60 M5s were best in class for most journalists by a significant margin. |
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07-09-2012, 10:37 PM | #15 |
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Slap the reporter!
I'd rather have seen him testing out the 4255 lbs coupe vice the convertible. Especially since he was comparing to M5 and a flipping corvette.
I wouldn't be comparing an e93 M3 with its direct competition. This guy should have known, or the producers.
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I really don't think BMW has "lost their way" or "are on the wrong path". I think BMW has decided to move into a market that they previously ignored. This fact seems to be hard to swallow or understand for some people. They offer quite a few sedans and coupes in the Z, 1, 3 and upcoming 4 range that meet or exceed sportscar "performance". Seriously, look at the Audi R8 v8 vs the e92 BMW M3 if you don't know what I mean. The M6 is not a track car but if you put it on a track against its competitors I bet you it'll do very well. |
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When you start questioning something that's naturally associated with M cars (as per this video), you have to stop and think if it's becoming a problem. I think the FXX M3 is going to be a telling sign of the direction or state BMW M is headed or is in. |
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Scott presented a few days ago that the new tech for lighter cars will be introduced with the next generation of 7 series! For sure after that all the other models will benefit from that tech, especially M cars
Another car that will be much lighter than the current model is the next X5! Maybe this is a transition time and the costs were to high to incorporate the new light technology in these models (CFRP and so on), but in the near future BMW knows very well what to do and what to launch to maintain its top position as premium car leader. As a curiosity, Audi's Boss estimated a few years ago that in 2015 they will be the premium car leaders, these days delayed this date to 2020 |
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